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Hey Debs
In the copy of Barnett's statement to the police,
(the one posted by Dave O that precipitated
the discussion about Johnto and joined up
words), written by Abberline, it says:
"...deceased told me on one occasion...that she
had a brother named Henrry (sic?) serving in
2nd Battn Scots Guards and known amongst
his comrades as Johnto and I believe the
Regiment is now in Ireland..."
It seems to me that this was Abberline
paraphrasing what Barnett told him, as
it would seem more likely that a police
officer would refer to MJK as the deceased
and Abberline seemingly adds the thought
that he believes the Regiment is now in
Ireland.
Edited to add: Ok, on re-reading it, it does seem
as though the "I believe the Regiment is now in
Ireland", is a continuation of what Barnett said,
and not an addition by Abberline.
But in Barnett's Inquest testimony he
says:
"...[Coroner] Have you had conversation with deceased about her parents ? -
Yes, frequently. She said she was born in Limerick, and
went when very young to Wales. She did not say how
long she lived there, but that she came to London about
four years ago. Her father's name was John Kelly, a "gaffer"
or foreman in an iron works in Carnarvonshire, or Carmarthen.
She said she had one sister, who was respectable, who travelled
from market place to market place. This sister was very fond
of her. There were six brothers living in London, and one
was in the army. One of them was named Henry.
I never saw the brothers to my knowledge..."
Does it seem to you that in Barnett's direct Inquest
testimony, when he's referring to MJK's brothers, one
in the army, one named Henry, he's speaking of two
different people?
Liv
In the copy of Barnett's statement to the police,
(the one posted by Dave O that precipitated
the discussion about Johnto and joined up
words), written by Abberline, it says:
"...deceased told me on one occasion...that she
had a brother named Henrry (sic?) serving in
2nd Battn Scots Guards and known amongst
his comrades as Johnto and I believe the
Regiment is now in Ireland..."
It seems to me that this was Abberline
paraphrasing what Barnett told him, as
it would seem more likely that a police
officer would refer to MJK as the deceased
and Abberline seemingly adds the thought
that he believes the Regiment is now in
Ireland.
Edited to add: Ok, on re-reading it, it does seem
as though the "I believe the Regiment is now in
Ireland", is a continuation of what Barnett said,
and not an addition by Abberline.
But in Barnett's Inquest testimony he
says:
"...[Coroner] Have you had conversation with deceased about her parents ? -
Yes, frequently. She said she was born in Limerick, and
went when very young to Wales. She did not say how
long she lived there, but that she came to London about
four years ago. Her father's name was John Kelly, a "gaffer"
or foreman in an iron works in Carnarvonshire, or Carmarthen.
She said she had one sister, who was respectable, who travelled
from market place to market place. This sister was very fond
of her. There were six brothers living in London, and one
was in the army. One of them was named Henry.
I never saw the brothers to my knowledge..."
Does it seem to you that in Barnett's direct Inquest
testimony, when he's referring to MJK's brothers, one
in the army, one named Henry, he's speaking of two
different people?
Liv
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