Mjk

[Robert]

Hi Bridewell

Well, she was a prostitute, something that Richard said McCarthy wouldn't stand for. One can say "Ah, but he'd have drawn a line at letting his rooms be used for the purpose" but I feel that is unrealistic.

[Bridewell]

Cox said that she got her living on the streets.

Hi, Robert,

isn't this a matter of semantics? A prostitute gets her living "on the streets" inasmuch as that's where she picks up her punters. Whether the sexual act takes place on the street or in a private room she still gets her living on the streets.

Regards, Bridewell.

[richardnunweek]

Hi Curious,
Sorry for the confusion.
Meaning..Mary was known by the killer, and the killer was known by Mary..
No conspiracy angle.
Happy Xmas
Regards Richard.

[curious]

I would suggest that she was known to the killer, and known by the victim.
Regards Richard.

Hi, Richard,
This sentence seems to say that MJK was known both to the killer and the victim

Are you suggesting that the victim was NOT MJK?

or did you intend to state that the killer was known to the victim?

If you are suggesting that the victim was not MJK, I'd love to hear your thinking on the subject.

Thanks,

curious

[Cogidubnus]

I'm with Jon on this one...and although there's no proof, I wouldn't be at all surprised if McCarthy wasn't taking a discreet slice off the top...but even if not it simply beggars belief that he didn't know what was going on in such close proximity to his own home.

All the best

Dave

[Wickerman]

One fact in those days, even later in the 1930-50's, everyone who lives around you knows your business.

When neighbours see other single female tenants with a strange man every night, or several in one night, they know the score. Bowyer saw Kelly talking to "collars and cuffs" on Wednesday night, we can assume he knew this was not her investment adviser.

What Bowyer knew, McCarthy knew, and you can bet, what other tenants knew, because of gossip, McCarthy also knew. McCarthy was not concerned, proof is the legal requirement, not gossip.

Regards, Jon S.

[Scorpio]

I believe Kelly's relationship with her killer was casual and non physical; she had not walked the streets in an extended period, if ever, and had not invited clients to no 13 as her flatmate Barnett would not have tolerated it.
The FBI suggest that the killer caroused in local public houses eyeing up possible victims; i believe that this provides the best explanation.
An organised killer could invent any fanciful tale about himself to interest a vic
and dissuade suspicion; Kelly would not be the first woman to kid herself that she could judge a man and ended up dead.

[richardnunweek]

Hi Guys,
As I stated the majority of the court residents were couples.
Making a living on the streets, and doing business down some alley, was none of McCarthy,s concern, but having open prostitution under his nose would have concerned him.
I am not disputing that his tenants could bring home who they wished, but I am confident that he would never have tolerated his residents using his respected name for open prostitution.
But that is only my opinion.
Regards Richard.

[Damaso Marte]

Cox said that she got her living on the streets.

Before her living arrangements changed, no?

[Damaso Marte]

Hi Jon,
I cannot agree that McCarthy's rents were occupied for prostitution, indeed they were mostly occupied by couples, and the landlord was reputed to stand no nonsense .
I am not suggesting that his morals were saintly but we should not forget he was a family man, and open prostitution with his consent, would not have been tolerated.
Can you confirm otherwise?
Regards Richard.

Even supposing this were true, landlords do not always get what they want. I routinely violate some of my landlord's rules (though not the one against whoring) and have never been caught.

MJK had just suffered an event that made money particularly necessary for her: even if her landlord had a strict no-whoring policy, this was a woman in need of cash.

[Robert]

Cox said that she got her living on the streets.

[Wickerman]

Hi Richard.

I'm sure I had seen a press article where McCarthy admitted what some of the rooms were being used for.
Anyhow, Mrs Prater informs us of their use..

"Elizabeth Prater, the occupant of the first floor front room, was one of those who saw the body through the window. She affirms that she spoke to the deceased on Thursday. She knew that Kelly had been living with a man, and that they had quarrelled about ten days since. It was a common thing for the women living in these tenements to bring men home with them. They could do so as they pleased."

I can't imagine Prater having a reason to throw McCarthy under the bus (as they say), and McCarthy let Prater stay on as a tenant for years after. He was present when Prater said this so, it cannot have concerned him.

Regards, Jon S.

[richardnunweek]

Hi Jon,
I cannot agree that McCarthy's rents were occupied for prostitution, indeed they were mostly occupied by couples, and the landlord was reputed to stand no nonsense .
I am not suggesting that his morals were saintly but we should not forget he was a family man, and open prostitution with his consent, would not have been tolerated.
Can you confirm otherwise?
Regards Richard.

[Wickerman]

Hi ,
I also am of the opinion that Mary knew the person who killed her, she would never have taken a stranger back to her room in the middle of the night, she was to paranoid for that.

Psst Richard, that's what those rooms were for.... renting out for prostitutes to earn a living. Not for friendly soiree's

Regards, Jon S.

[Stephen Thomas]

I also am of the opinion that Mary knew the person who killed her, she would never have taken a stranger back to her room in the middle of the night
.

Why on earth do you believe that?