The Broken Window

[Bob Hinton]

The photograph actually looks much clearer on my machine. I think it's lost some of the quality being posted up to the site. This is the copy of the photograph that Stewart posted up, so I presume it's a scan from the first generation hard copy print. I'll see if I can reproduce the exact black levels that display in photoshop on my machine, so that it shows a true version of the image I'm looking at. It does show the bottom right and left window panes quite clearly, so people can make a better judgement. Other than adjusting the black levels slightly, it's not been retouched in any other way.

Hugs

Janie

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I'm quite sure the photograph has not been retouched in modern times but I think it looks like it may have been retouched when the first print was made. Only the original glass negative can tell us this.

[Issack]

I have made a few assumptions, however, by looking at the photograph posted earlier in this thread, the wall from corner to door reveal looks to be about 1brick + 1 brick edge on (327mm allowing 10mm for mortar)
I am taking a standard brick as being 215x102 . The door frame is approximately 2 No bricks from the corner (difficult to see but I have tried to use the rainwater pipe as a guide) 2x215 + 10mm morter
Allowing for a standard door reveal, and allowing that the Window frame appears to be of the old 4 inch concrete reveal type (approx 105mm) it would mean that the distance from the broken glass to the lock would require a reach of approx 546mm (21.5inches)
(this is assuming that the broken window and door lock are on the same level)
if the vertical height varies the dist of 546 will increase., certainly not impossible. But close to maximum reach.

[Raoul's Obsession]

this is what it looks like solarised with a very low threshold. Only colours exactly black or very close to it are inverted.
This is fun - we should all have a go.
I'm down on filters and I shan't quit solarizing till I do get buckled.

[Garry Wroe]

I don't know if Gary would like to have another go, or indeed anyone else that can use Photoshop, as different people have different techniques and some might work out better than others.

Fabulous job, Jane. Case closed, I would say.

Regards.

Garry Wroe.

[Nemo]

That brick column is only 9" x 9" (length of a standard brick)

+ approx 3-6" for the window frame and glass

So the person reaching inside would only be stretching over a distance of about 15" or slightly more

I suspect there was a bolt or latch near the top of the door, the lock being more at eye level than the pictures I posted would suggest

[Scott Nelson]

Like you say - it's a waste of time, and I'm not wasting any more time here. Do your own research.

Oh no!

That's the first time I've been rebuked by Stewart Evans.

Well, I'd do my own research if I could remember how.

[Rob Clack]

I believe Don found the glass negative for Millers Court (which I think has since gone missing) and he writes about how he found it in 'The Complete Jack the Ripper'. I don't think there is any doubt (in my mind anyway) that it was taken on the morning of the 9 November 1888.

Rob

[Stewart P Evans]

Waste of Time

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Yes Neil, like almost everything else on these threads, it's a waste of time.

Like you say - it's a waste of time, and I'm not wasting any more time here. Do your own research.

[Scott Nelson]

Just to add that if it was taken in 1888 just after the discovery of the body, the crowd control must have been remarkable. The court looks deserted.

[Robert]

Hi Stewart

Are you sure in your own mind that the photo dates from 1888, and not from Matters?

[Stewart P Evans]

Provenance

Thank you Stewart. Since Rumbelow didn't take the picture, he must have obtained it from somewhere.
Yes Neil, like almost everything else on these threads, it's a waste of time.

I thought that you had been around Ripperworld long enough to know the provenance of this very well known photograph Scott. It was found in the mid-1960s by Don Rumbelow in the photographic department of the City Police, together with the victim photographs. Don immediately recognised it as the Miller's Court scene.

[Scott Nelson]

Thank you Stewart. Since Rumbelow didn't take the picture, he must have obtained it from somewhere.

Yes Neil, like almost everything else on these threads, it's a waste of time.

[Stewart P Evans]

Donald Rumbelow

What's the provenance of this photo?...

Donald Rumbelow.

[Monty]

Im sorry, just came onboard here, but are we really debating this?

Seems a waste to me.

Monty

[Scott Nelson]

What's the provenance of this photo? I'm fairly sure it's Kelly's (former?) room Miller's Court. Could it have originated with William Stewart's collection? Were the windows almost always getting broken?