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  • #91
    Originally posted by The Rookie Detective View Post


    I wouldn't waste time focusing on the classic 'show and tell' psychology adopted by several of the members on this site.
    Using cryptic sentences to tell us there's a hidden mystery, but revealing nothing of any credible value to progress the case.

    The only anomaly that I've ever found unusual regarding the murder of MJK is the fact her death certificate says she was murdered in flat 1 instead of 13.

    And apart from her inquest being rushed through disturbingly quickly, I see no other peculiarities that would warrant her death being suspicious outside the realms of her having been a murder victim.



    RD
    Well there's also the other issue with MJK death . Reports and witness statements of seeing her alive the following morning at that is was someone else who was murdered in her place . Plenty of threads and topics on that scenario if ones interested .
    'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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    • #92
      Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

      Well there's also the other issue with MJK death . Reports and witness statements of seeing her alive the following morning at that is was someone else who was murdered in her place . Plenty of threads and topics on that scenario if ones interested .
      What i find fascinating is that almost all the initial reports indicated she was murdered the next morning after bring spotted by at least 2 "witnesses."
      Initially there was no mention of her being slain in the early hours.

      A similar thing happened with Nichols; the initial reports of multiple witnesses hearing a woman fleeing an attack close to the Jewish cemetery and then being heard heading South and then west into Bucks Row, plus the alleged blood trail zig zagging across the road and something resembling bloodied hand marks on a wall...were all discarded and forgotten about in favour of PC Neil's account etc...

      Its quite remarkable how so many accounts from potential witnesses were just lost in the wind.
      It does make me wonder whether something that was discarded as irrelevant could have been a crucial clue and the police made a critical error of judgement


      RD
      "Great minds, don't think alike"

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      • #93
        Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

        Surely an explanation is warranted to this bizarre nonsensical claim.?
        Not my claim.

        Steve

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
          Steve,

          You seem to be getting the picture.

          Simon
          No, just explaining your view.

          Steve

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Elamarna View Post

            Not my claim.

            Steve
            Yes noted , its was a open question hoping for a response that never came .
            'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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            • #96
              Can I ask - on MJK3, why is the photographer's hand / camera crudely painted on the photo? Is this normal for the standards of the day to show the position of the camera? And why would Kelly's right leg be painted on? Doesn't that just make the whole photo look a bit ridiculous? Or did this occur on other occasions during crime photography of the day - excuse my ignorance.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Yatish View Post
                Can I ask - on MJK3, why is the photographer's hand / camera crudely painted on the photo? Is this normal for the standards of the day to show the position of the camera? And why would Kelly's right leg be painted on?
                It looks to me that the reason the leg has been painted on is that the actual leg would have been wildly out of focus so close to the lens.

                As for the seeming hand, doesn't that look like an attempt to represent the hand-hold that put the killer's bloody fingerprints on MJK's calf -- or perhaps to depict the fingerprints themselves?

                M.
                Last edited by Mark J D; 10-01-2024, 07:31 PM.
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Mark J D View Post

                  It looks to me that the reason the leg has been painted on is that the actual leg would have been wildly out of focus so close to the lens.

                  As for the seeming hand, doesn't that look like an attempt to represent the hand-hold that put the killer's bloody fingerprints on MJK's calf -- or perhaps to depict the fingerprints themselves?

                  M.
                  Yes, I see what you mean and that’s a very good point regarding the leg would be totally out of focus. Just the painting on of the camera and the hand seems very bizarre to me. Nothing is painted on on MJK1, which just looks like a “normal” photo to me.

                  My understanding is that MJK3 was anonymously sent in 1989 to Scotland Yard. Has anyone since uncovered who sent this? An ex senior police officer?

                  I am an amateur student of the case, even though I don’t contribute much, but I remember reading Simon Wood’s Essay many years ago on Miller’s Court.



                  Regarding this part:

                  ”That said, writing is indeed visible all over the photograph we know as MJK3. Most of it is illegible or nonsensical, probably the result of people writing on the envelope in which the photograph was kept. But at some point an original print was die stamped. In the area below the raised left knee clearly visible concentric circles contain the letters HO. Home Office? Within the circles, and to the left, a notation reads 'SIB8FGA' and, beneath, a second reads: 'pd 2/4'.”

                  This has always fascinated me very much. Does anyone else see this notation or has it been shown through a powerful close-up?
                  Last edited by Yatish; 10-01-2024, 11:30 PM.

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