Millers Court Today.

[Justin]

Yeh I posted that original thread..

The proposal was to demolish both the White Row car park and the fruit exchange and in its place build an office block straddling both. This would mean the site of Millers Ct would be inside the building itself.

It was approved in principal, but the planners didnt like the architecture of the proposed building in comparision with older buildings in the area.

This info is available on the Tower Hamlets planning website.

Kevin

I forgot about this. I'm glad they did the right thing.

Perhaps someone on the council is feeling remorse for Norman Foster's hideous destruction of half of Spitalfields Market?

[Becks]

Note to self : must find copy of Philips book! Sounds great! I love looking at the old pics of the East End. Anything of Dorset St and the location of MJKs room etc is especially great it's amazing to think that after all these years, the exact spot where she died can be pointed out still

[KatBradshaw]

I am a teacher and decided last year to do an investigation in to JTR and the poverty in the East End with my Year 9s when we did Victorian Britain. The kids loved it and the 'Now and Then' book was a particular hit! They were just disappointed that I wouldn't let the photocopy. Unfortuneatly Casebook is blocked at my school.

[Mike Covell]

Year 9 is that 13 year olds?
I am pretty sure by that age most kids have seen more than their fair share of violence. I went to an inner city school and saw beatings, stabbings, and a boy so badly beaten his cheek bone was potruding from his cheek!
I also remember when a lad from my year lost both his legs as he had decided on a spot of train surfing!
This site is pretty tame compared to those school days.

[KatBradshaw]

Yeah the firewall at my school is pretty strict. I was trying to look up information on the women in the Nazi Regime and it wouldn't let me!!
The kids are 13/14 and were fascinated by JTR. My cousin lives in south east london and is doing her GCSE coursework on JTR as the local study. We do Rievaulx Abbey!

[Mike Covell]

I have been trying to locate a Secondary School in Hull which teaches the case as part of GCSE History but have yet to find one. My nieces are 13 and 15 and are home schooled so their syllabus is different to what would be taught at school.

[Monty]

Mike,

I know of a Hull teacher who is preparing to teach the impact of the case upon the East end. Boy was I quizzed.


Kat,

Revaux Abbey is a beautiful place....just a bit outta the way for South east London.

Monty

[KatBradshaw]

LOL, yeah I am not in south east london I am in York, so a bit closer for me.

I have heard about a few places that do it and one of the writers of the text book we use also does one on the Ripper case. Maybe when I am a head of department I can bring it in.

[Mike Covell]

If anyone knows any teachers (the closer to Hul the better) who are teaching the subject, please let me know or pass on my details. I am putting together an article and would love to hear from teachers teaching the case and their views on the subject as a whole.

[Monty]

York?

Bit closer then.

I love York, though dont love that bl**dy ring road !!

I also like Helmsley, Malton, Bishop Burton, Thornton Le Dale etc.

Monty


PS When you're head of department? Ambitious eh?

[emlodik]

Hi - that's from the website of the company I guide for. That's the exact spot (give or take a foot) of the murder of MJK - in short, it's where her bed was inside #13.

PHILIP

Wait, so is that a parking lot? The girl that lead the Ripper walk I took claimed that a parking lot across the street from a former workhouse (or was it a Catholic charity shelter?) is exactly the location of Miller's Court. Is that true?

[KatBradshaw]

We take the kids to Helmselt Castle too. It lovely.

With regards to the topic of Millers Court and the other murder sites I have often thought that Hanbury Street gets me the most. I think this is because it is still intact, albeit on the other side of the road, and it is so close to the Ten Bells which I always imgained when I first got interetsed in the Ripper Case 20 years ago. I was so surprised when I went there about how small it was.

[Monty]

Wait, so is that a parking lot? The girl that lead the Ripper walk I took claimed that a parking lot across the street from a former workhouse (or was it a Catholic charity shelter?) is exactly the location of Miller's Court. Is that true?

You sure this girl wasnt called Pope De Locksley?

No, Millers Court would have stood oposite the car park.

The Providence Row Nightshelter is situated at the western end of Dorset Street (Now Duvall St), and is actually in Crispen Street. You must have passed it during your walk. It faces Dorset Street.

Where the parking lot is situated, there were a mixture of pubs, lodging houses (Horn of Plenty, Crossinghams for example) etc.

Your guide needs to read a bit more.

Kat,

Did you go into the Golden Hart?

Monty

[KatBradshaw]

Not on the school trip, think I would have been sacked!
But I did get lunch in one of the pubs when I went there with my ex. Its very lovely.

[Monty]

Thats nothing, my teacher use to offer me grass.

Suffice to say he dont teach anymore.

Monty