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  • #16
    I've been there so many hundreds of times now, it has little effect. I've probably been there alone about twenty times. There's not a trace of the past there and imagination is all. To stand on the spot and visualise the MJK1/2 photos and the layout of the crime scene is very eerie, but you have to REALLY push yourself into it.

    PHILIP
    Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd.

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    • #17
      Quite true. I've been to all the sites alone, but any ambience is pretty much gone. The only place where I ever experienced a small frisson was in Durward Street, in the evening, looking toward the old board school.

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      • #18
        GM, you need to walk into Mitre Square having just walked along Aldgate High Street during a busy evening just after it's been raining. The roar of the traffic is almost silenced and the bench by the murder spot appears like a silent witness (though it's not, of course).

        PHILIP
        Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by George Hutchinson View Post
          GM, you need to walk into Mitre Square having just walked along Aldgate High Street during a busy evening just after it's been raining. The roar of the traffic is almost silenced and the bench by the murder spot appears like a silent witness (though it's not, of course).

          PHILIP
          Living on the other side of the world, I, like many others have a slightly romanticized image of the murder sites in our minds.
          However, no matter how changed they may be, it would surely be something to stand on the spot where something happened all those years ago that we still discuss to this day. Note to self...must start saving for that English holiday!

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          • #20
            Lord Lucan,

            Good luck to you in saving up for your trip to England. I was there in 2004 and am going again this year. Remember that one British pound equals nearly two American dollars. In my experience, saving $75 a month for three years is about what it takes to travel to England on a conservative budget.

            Kensei

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            • #21
              Originally posted by kensei View Post
              Lord Lucan,

              Good luck to you in saving up for your trip to England.
              If it's the real Lord Lucan, I'm sure a free passage back to the Mother Country could be easily arranged
              Kind regards, Sam Flynn

              "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
                If it's the real Lord Lucan, I'm sure a free passage back to the Mother Country could be easily arranged
                Just watch out for the old bill!!
                Regards Mike

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mike Covell View Post
                  Just watch out for the old bill!!
                  ...I was rather thinking that they would pay for the trip, Mike
                  Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                  "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                  • #24
                    Lord Lucan return to Britain? I'm not sure that he'd like the nanny state.

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                    • #25
                      Hi Robert,

                      I heard he was thinking of riding in on Shergar.

                      It was believed that the poor beast was taken by someone "high up in the horsey field".

                      Love,

                      Caz
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                      "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Mike Covell View Post
                        Just watch out for the old bill!!
                        Hahaha When I travel, it's always discretely.
                        In all seriousness though, I treated myself to The London of Jack the Ripper: Then and Now by Philip Hutchinson and Robert Clack for Christmas and have read through it 3 times. It's a shame to see what's been done to some fine old buildings, but I'd at least like to get a glimpse in person of what remains before it all vanishes...so much for progress!
                        Last edited by Lord Lucan; 03-04-2008, 12:55 PM.

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                        • #27
                          It is one of the finest, if not The finest pictorial archive I have ever seen and a must have on the old book case.

                          Millers Court should be recreated fully in a museum, if not to show what the Ripper did, then to show living conditions in Victorian London in the lower classes!
                          Regards Mike

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                          • #28
                            I've just spent most of the afternoon there with a TV crew!

                            PHILIP

                            (And thank you, disgraced Peer and Hull man for your kind words)
                            Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd.

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                            • #29
                              Millers Court

                              Hi,
                              Im new to the site but started reading about Dorset St many years ago. Infact I was probably there in a past life.
                              Can anyone please tell me to what extent of the discrepancy between the old and present lines of Dorset St?
                              Ive been trying to compare old and later photos. From what I can deduce, the present north side of the street is no more than 8yrdsfurther north than the old Dorset St.
                              Is the actual site of no13 Millers Crt in the street or under buildings?
                              Many thanks.

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                              • #30
                                Welcome to the boards WARSPITE

                                I would recommend getting hold of Philip Hutchinson and Robert Clack's excellent "The London of Jack the Ripper, Then and Now".

                                There are loads of great shots of Dorset Street....Then and Now.

                                the book also covers tons of other East End sites associated with the mystery.
                                Regards Mike

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