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Originally posted by anna View PostHi Robert,
Before I was brave enough to walk into an optitians,I purchased a very strong magnifier!!
I disagree with Sam....as the magnifier is showing up various objects quite clearly,....on the table,amid flesh etc.
A hand mirror is definitely visible,with at least 3 other objects I can pick out and recognise,as similar to some handed down from my great gran to my nan.
ANNA.
Best regards.
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Tin bath
The tin bath, under the bed, has always intrigued me. Especially with the clothing found in her room. Would such an item be used for laundry?Monty
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Originally posted by Monty View PostThe tin bath, under the bed, has always intrigued me. Especially with the clothing found in her room. Would such an item be used for laundry?
I also believe that this is what caused the "remains of a large fire". It wasnt large..it was layered and going on all day. And boiling and reboiling water in the kettle all day likely melted the spout that may have been partially that way before it was used that day.
Best regards Monty.
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Originally posted by Mike Covell View Post
The next interesting anomalie on the image is what appears to look like two loop holes possibly scissors just under MJK's arm. Any ideas?
I have no idea what the circle is below around her knee."Truth only reveals itself when one gives up all preconceived ideas. ~Shoseki
When one has one's hand full of truth it is not always wise to open it. ~French Proverb
Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized. In the first, it is ridiculed, in the second it is opposed, in the third it is regarded as self-evident. ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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Is it just my eyes playing tricks or...
When I blew the picture up(the second pic posted) and enlarged it 200x. Is there writing in the circle on her knee???? Did someone write something? It almost looked like the last word in the circle was *Jack*
Sorry I might just be in need of an eye exam again.Last edited by Blackkat; 11-30-2008, 09:02 AM."Truth only reveals itself when one gives up all preconceived ideas. ~Shoseki
When one has one's hand full of truth it is not always wise to open it. ~French Proverb
Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized. In the first, it is ridiculed, in the second it is opposed, in the third it is regarded as self-evident. ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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Originally posted by anna View PostA hand mirror is definitely visible,with at least 3 other objects I can pick out and recognise,as similar to some handed down from my great gran to my nan.Kind regards, Sam Flynn
"Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)
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"Truth only reveals itself when one gives up all preconceived ideas. ~Shoseki
When one has one's hand full of truth it is not always wise to open it. ~French Proverb
Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized. In the first, it is ridiculed, in the second it is opposed, in the third it is regarded as self-evident. ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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Originally posted by Blackkat View PostIs it just my eyes playing tricks or... Is there writing in the circle on her knee????
Bear in mind that the image is a copy of a copy of a ... (etc). The original from which it came was extremely old, and would not have been in pristine condition to start with. Even the original plate/negative wasn't taken using particularly sophisticated photographic techniques. In addition, what we're actually looking at is an Nth-generation compressed electronic image, and image compression loses and distorts pixels.
Enhancing an image of this nature will clean up certain areas, but does so at a cost - not only will information be lost, but the process also enhances any blemishes or distortions that might have been there in the first place. Sometimes those blemishes appear to take on a life of their own, I'm afraid, and it's all too easy to read too much into them. A bit like reading tea-leaves.Kind regards, Sam Flynn
"Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)
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Well then if she doesn't have anything on that leg(clothing) then perhaps it's a round slight incision."Truth only reveals itself when one gives up all preconceived ideas. ~Shoseki
When one has one's hand full of truth it is not always wise to open it. ~French Proverb
Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized. In the first, it is ridiculed, in the second it is opposed, in the third it is regarded as self-evident. ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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Thanks much Sam. Appreciate it.
Originally posted by Sam Flynn View PostWhoever wrote it would have needed a very fine pen if so, Kat - that mark is only a few millimetres long.
Bear in mind that the image is a copy of a copy of a ... (etc). The original from which it came was extremely old, and would not have been in pristine condition to start with. Even the original plate/negative wasn't taken using particularly sophisticated photographic techniques. In addition, what we're actually looking at is an Nth-generation compressed electronic image, and image compression loses and distorts pixels.
Enhancing an image of this nature will clean up certain areas, but does so at a cost - not only will information be lost, but the process also enhances any blemishes or distortions that might have been there in the first place. Sometimes those blemishes appear to take on a life of their own, I'm afraid, and it's all too easy to read too much into them. A bit like reading tea-leaves."Truth only reveals itself when one gives up all preconceived ideas. ~Shoseki
When one has one's hand full of truth it is not always wise to open it. ~French Proverb
Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized. In the first, it is ridiculed, in the second it is opposed, in the third it is regarded as self-evident. ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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Hi Kat,
Thanks for the thanks!
On a more general note, I should be very surprised if we'd be able see anything real on that image that was mere millimetres wide in real life, at least not with any confidence. We may be seeing particles of dust, or some other imperfection that came in contact with the photograph (or electronic reproductions thereof) during its 120 year history.Kind regards, Sam Flynn
"Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)
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You know I was referring to your question right? "what the circle was" not the "writing" I thought I saw.
She wasn't wearing any leggings er.. long undies right? I was just saying maybe it was a cut, but I don't really know because I can't see how a circular cut would be made right below her knee."Truth only reveals itself when one gives up all preconceived ideas. ~Shoseki
When one has one's hand full of truth it is not always wise to open it. ~French Proverb
Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized. In the first, it is ridiculed, in the second it is opposed, in the third it is regarded as self-evident. ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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