Hi Henry,
Quite.
Regards,
Simon
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I'll give you this: in all my years of feeding my inner deviant online and in books, I have never come across an image of a murdered or dead human's face that is as impossible to decode as this supposedly human face.
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Originally posted by Henry Flower View PostHas anyone with any tech skills had a go at anatomically labelling what we can see in this image?
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I would add that one easily-identifiable artefact in the image is the arched aperture visible in the lower left-hand corner of the image, shown in red below. This is, alarmingly, where Kelly's external genitalia used to be.
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Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostHi Henry,
Yes, fine thank you, now back from seven weeks physical therapy. I can now walk and talk at the same time.
What we're looking at is a re-creation of the Kelly murder scene.
I would direct your attention to the right knee and thigh.
Regards,
Simon
You are - as is your wont - leaving us with more questions than answers. A recreation by whom, for what reason, and when?
And if the right knee and thigh, why not also the left?
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Originally posted by Sam Flynn View PostHello Henry
I agree with you about the inner edge of the calf; I suspect that the gash Dr Bond referred to cut her calf muscle so severely that it's flopped out of view, causing the "hollow" where the body of the calf muscle used to be. A deep gash extending from just below the knee to 5 inches above the ankle would damage the most bulky part of the calf muscle, i.e. the very part you've shown by the dotted line.
Edit: I'd also point out that the line of the inner calf, as we look at it, appears to be rather "scalloped" or jagged, oddly enough from a point just below the left knee to about 5 inches above the ankle. Above and below this jagged line (shown in red below), the outline of the skin is smooth and continuous.
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I think we're looking at the location of the gash described by Dr Bond, behind which the damaged calf muscle itself is lying out of sight.
Has anyone with any tech skills had a go at anatomically labelling what we can see in this image?
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Hello Henry
I agree with you about the inner edge of the calf; I suspect that the gash Dr Bond referred to cut her calf muscle so severely that it's flopped out of view, causing the "hollow" where the body of the calf muscle used to be. A deep gash extending from just below the knee to 5 inches above the ankle would damage the most bulky part of the calf muscle, i.e. the very part you've shown by the dotted line.
Edit: I'd also point out that the line of the inner calf, as we look at it, appears to be rather "scalloped" or jagged, oddly enough from a point just below the left knee to about 5 inches above the ankle. Above and below this jagged line (shown in red below), the outline of the skin is smooth and continuous.
I think we're looking at the location of the gash described by Dr Bond, behind which the damaged calf muscle itself is lying out of sight.Last edited by Sam Flynn; 08-19-2017, 11:30 AM.
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Thanks Gareth, it's my fault - I think I'm not making myself clear, not expressing myself very well. I understand the viewpoint, the position of the body, and the basic layout of what we're seeing. The only thing that is puzzling me is the jagged line denoting the edge of the gash wound to Mary's left calf. It extends, as Bond stated, from just below the knee to about 5 inches above the ankle.
What has confused me is that what we are both taking to be rumpled bedsheets seem to show (coincidentally) a line that could well be precisely where we would expect to see the line of the inner edge of her calf. (I have darkened it with dashes in the image below). But if it's just bedsheet then I'm puzzled by what we do see of her calf. Bond describes it merely as a gash, but in fact it appears that muscles have been denuded to the bone, or else - we would see them.
I hope the green makes it more clear. It's just very, very strange. From the angle of the camera we should surely see some tissue, some muscle, something. It's like it just..... stops. It reaches the jagged edge and stops. As though the leg had been hollow. Anyone else find this strange?
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Hi Henry,
Yes, fine thank you, now back from seven weeks physical therapy. I can now walk and talk at the same time.
What we're looking at is a re-creation of the Kelly murder scene.
I would direct your attention to the right knee and thigh.
Regards,
Simon
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Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostHi All,
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Regards,
Simon
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Originally posted by Henry Flower View PostYes, I didn't mention the knee, but my assumption is that the knee is usually to be found somewhere just north of the calf.
Apologies for the really poor quality of this stick-man graphic; it's a rush-job, but it might help visualise what we're looking at:
"The legs were wide apart, the left thigh at right angles to the trunk & the right forming an obtuse angle with the pubes." (Dr Bond's autopsy notes)Last edited by Sam Flynn; 08-19-2017, 10:38 AM.
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Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostHi All,
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Regards,
Simon
I wondered if I might tempt you out to play!
Hope you're very well.
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I can see that the photo across the pelvis to the bedside table does seem to suggest excision of that tissue, not merely a 'gash' - if only it included just a little more.
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Originally posted by Sam Flynn View PostActually, Henry, that's her calf and knee. It's her kneecap at extreme right.
Originally posted by Sam Flynn View PostThe bit shaded in green is a part of the wrinkled bedsheet, Henry.
And no blood at all?
(I'm starting to sound like one of those conspiracy kooks who think it's a waxwork, mentioning no names...)
That's weird.
Visually weird.
Is this the consensus view?
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Originally posted by Henry Flower View PostI'm always visually confused by this, Kelly's left calf in MJK2
Am I right in assuming that.. the area coloured green represents exposed tissue?
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