Weapons used on Mary?

[Callmebill]

Mary was shifted in the process?

I've never been able to understand that photograpgh.
The cameraman would have had to have moved the bed. His position would place him between the wall and the bed facing the windows? The bed was against the wall, wasn't it? So if he's not standing on the mattress, and that shot is on a level, with what is presubably Kelly's knee, where is he other with his back to the partition?
That means the bed was moved and perhaps Mary was shifted in the process.

[DJA]

As rigor mortis is all about muscle contraction as oxygen and nutrients run out, there will be the occasional slight twitch and movement of the muscles after death. We're not talking about the Thriller video, here, but it's not a totally static picture.

Not to mention Sarcoplasmic reticulum

[Robert St Devil]

hi sam and henry.
do you see the indication of a ridgeline where I have denoted the photo with yellow markings?

[Sam Flynn]

Hi Sam would that be your humeral-olecranon-radial head joint?

Strictly speaking, yes, Paul; more olecranon than humerus, if anything. I'll revise my metaphor, and use the more accurate version the next time

[kjab3112]

Someone with a good grounding in anatomy would do just as well. I've long been interested in anatomy myself, and have studied it, almost as a "hobby", since I was a kid. Much later, as part of my degree, I took an examined module in neuroanatomy under the splendid Prof Bob Lieberman at UCL, albeit neuroanatomy is probably not going to help us much with the MJK photographs! That said, for a lay-person, I'm pretty good at telling apart my gluteus maximus from my humerus.

Hi Sam would that be your humeral-olecranon-radial head joint?

Paul

[Henry Flower]

As rigor mortis is all about muscle contraction as oxygen and nutrients run out, there will be the occasional slight twitch and movement of the muscles after death. We're not talking about the Thriller video, here, but it's not a totally static picture.

I had intended to have bacon this morning. I'll now be having granola instead. Thanks guys.

[Sam Flynn]

Would the body move of it's own accord, as rigor mortis set in?

As rigor mortis is all about muscle contraction as oxygen and nutrients run out, there will be the occasional slight twitch and movement of the muscles after death. We're not talking about the Thriller video, here, but it's not a totally static picture.

[Henry Flower]

Would the body move of it's own accord, as rigor mortis set in?

My guess would be no. Is that something that happens?

What an eerie and disturbing thought.

[Joshua Rogan]

Interesting idea, but I honestly don't think that the body - or the furniture or bedclothes for that matter - was moved much between photographs, if at all.

Would the body move of it's own accord, as rigor mortis set in?

[Sam Flynn]

that's the part i could never work out sam. was that bit of cloth between her forearm and leg removed between taking each photograph?

Interesting idea, but I honestly don't think that the body - or the furniture or bedclothes for that matter - was moved much between photographs, if at all.

[Sam Flynn]

hi sam. i dont think its her pelvic bone in the lower left corner. i blv that is her lower right leg, evidenced by the black band around the calf region.

Indeed. The black band, I think, is some sort of garter.

[Robert St Devil]

that's the part i could never work out sam. was that bit of cloth between her forearm and leg removed between taking each photograph?

[Robert St Devil]

hi sam. i dont think its her pelvic bone in the lower left corner. i blv that is her lower right leg, evidenced by the black band around the calf region. you can just make out a bit of bedding underneath it.

[Henry Flower]

The reason I don't think the purple bit is the knee is that it goes up in a parabola and comes back down again at a fairly sharp angle. If that were the knee-cap, then Kelly's calf would have to be dangling off the edge of the bed; but, as we know, the calf is actually lying almost flush with the mattress.

It's possible that the knee is just out of shot in MJK3; alternatively, it might be in shot but occluded by the loop of cloth... or whatever that purple bit is!

Yes. The more I was looking at it the more I was thinking the same. I think your idea makes more sense than mine.

I've decided to stop looking. That poor girl.

Cheers Sam

[Sam Flynn]

The reason I don't think the purple bit is the knee is that it goes up in a parabola and comes back down again at a fairly sharp angle. If that were the knee-cap, then Kelly's calf would have to be dangling, almost vertically, off the edge of the bed; but, as we know, the calf is actually lying almost flush with the mattress.

It's possible that the knee is just out of shot in MJK3; alternatively, it might be in shot but occluded by the loop of cloth... or whatever that purple bit is!