The Grisly

[Tom_Wescott]

Hi Henry. Like you, I was truly impressed with Lynn's JI essay. I honestly didn't expect much, but I came away from it thinking that if Jacob was already a murderer by the time of his incarceration, then it was only a matter of time! Have said all this, some writers (not necessarily Lynn) are suggesting that each murder was committed by a unique hand, and I think that's damn near an impossibility. Personally, I'm of the opinion that the C5, among others were killed by the same man or team of men. But Lynn Cates might just be the first writer to take the whole 'multiple unconnected killers' theory out of the realm of cranks and invest it with some form of credibility.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[lynn cates]

not cranky

Hello Michael, Tom. Thanks.

If I have convinced you, not that JI was the killer, but that the theory is not cranky, then I have truly accomplished my objective.

Cheers.
LC

[Tom_Wescott]

Indeed you have, Lynn. Now, when do you we get to read your work on Chapman? Eddowes? Stride? et al?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[DGB]

Hi Henry. Like you, I was truly impressed with Lynn's JI essay. I honestly didn't expect much, but I came away from it thinking that if Jacob was already a murderer by the time of his incarceration, then it was only a matter of time! Have said all this, some writers (not necessarily Lynn) are suggesting that each murder was committed by a unique hand, and I think that's damn near an impossibility. Personally, I'm of the opinion that the C5, among others were killed by the same man or team of men. But Lynn Cates might just be the first writer to take the whole 'multiple unconnected killers' theory out of the realm of cranks and invest it with some form of credibility.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Like you Tom, I believe its nigh on impossible that at least Eddowes and Chapman - and probably Nichols - were killed by separate individuals.

However, I haven't read Lynn's article, and you've sold it well so I'll look straight away.

[Phil Carter]

Hi Roy

You see, I'm not convinced Eddowes was actually soliciting at the time of her death (though she may've been) and I'm damm nearly sure Liz Stride wasn't...In fact I think the latter thought she was on a date with someone who'd change her life (alas she was, but not the way SHE thought)...

And was MJK killed by someone she picked up earlier and brought home...or not...we just don't know do we...not really...we just assume because of the earlier victims...and we all know that assume just makes an ass out of u and me...

All the best

Dave

Hello Dave,

You've been in the Secret Squirrel mob then I see...hahaha! Thats lesson No.1 they write up in training..lol

For what it is worth, I'm not convinced either btw.

best wishes

Phil

[lynn cates]

Eddowes

Hello Tom. Thanks.

Eddowes should be soon. And in Don Souden's fine new journal.

Cheers.
LC

[Tom_Wescott]

Indeed you have, Lynn. Now, when do you we get to read your work on Chapman? Eddowes? Stride? et al?

Ugh, I must have been distracted. Not sure why I wrote Chapman when he was covered with Nichols in your Rip article. I meant Stride, Eddowes, Kelly, et al. So you're skipping Stride and going straight to Eddowes? You must have joined the Cartel! LOL. I look forward to reading it.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Bridewell]

I think, if the "Grisly Award" was within my gift I would have to present it to whichever (anonymous?) soul was landed with the job of cleaning out 13, Millers Court after the removal of MJK's body.

Regards, Bridewell.

[Roy Corduroy]

Hi Roy

You see, I'm not convinced Eddowes was actually soliciting at the time of her death (though she may've been) and I'm damm nearly sure Liz Stride wasn't...In fact I think the latter thought she was on a date with someone ...

And good morning Cogidubnus,

Why does it matter? These were the Unfortunates. They were out on the mean streets at night, whether is was soliciting, looking for a drink, whatever. Tragically making themselves easy victims for a serial killer.

The victimology in the entire series is cookie cutter uniform.

Roy

[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

I find it odd that, as far as I have been able to ascertain, none of these most unfortunate of Unfortunates had a rap sheet for prostitution/soliciting etc.

And not one of them [mutilations notwithstanding] appeared to be known to, or recognised by, a policeman.

Regards,

Simon

[Tom_Wescott]

Hi Simon, I find that odd too, since Stride did have such a rap sheet, and Eddowes and Kelly were known to be prostitutes by police, and most or all of the other victims were said to have been prostitutes by their associates.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Simon Wood]

Hi Tom,

Eddowes and Kelly were known to be prostitutes by police?

Pray tell more.

I thought Stride's rap sheet was for D&D.

Regards,

Simon

[lynn cates]

cartels are us

Hello Tom. Right.

Seriously, Liz is still quite tricky. I am currently reduced to looking at your lad, Bachert.

If I could make peace with all the "Liz sightings," I might look for Christer's "clerkly chap." Would it not be ironic if Sven Olsen (sp?) were wooing Liz?

But can nice Lutheran chaps be guilty of misbehaviour?

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

different

Hello Roy.

"These were the Unfortunates. They were out on the mean streets at night, whether is was soliciting, looking for a drink, whatever. Tragically making themselves easy victims for a serial killer. "

Ah, now put this way, it makes a BIG difference, and I am forced to agree.

Cheers.
LC

[Tom_Wescott]

Hi Simon. Stride had a rap sheet and was treated for venereal disease in Sweden. Eddowes was described as a prostitute by a policeman either at her inquest or in the police reports, I can't recall which at the moment. And Kelly was described as walking the streets with her female friends in a police memoir, either by Dew or Woodhall (I believe). Sorry I can't recall more right now. And again, in every case, there's evidence from associates that these women were prostitutes. That really isn't a point open for debate, though some apparently want to romanticize these women into something they were not (I'm not saying you do, but some do).

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott