The Grisly

[Simon Wood]

Hi Roy,

Not so fast, Krilencu.

What we don't know, of course, is whether there was a way from Winthrop Street to Bucks Row/Durward Street via Mr. Brown's Yard.



If so, surely this would have been the answer to a murderer's prayer.

Regards,

Simon

PS: Map courtesy of Rob Clack.

[Roy Corduroy]

That's what I thought, too Lynn.

But if she were murdered on Winthrop Street and her body carried to where it was found, the route was across two railroad bridges and around the Board School. Quite a haul.



* note Woods Buildings lower left. A secluded passage.

underlying map courtesy R Clack

[lynn cates]

dress

Hello Roy. Those are some solid reasons.

If I recall the police/medical speculation at the time, it was thought that her dress absorbed a good deal of the arterial blood.

What is your take on that?

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

assumptions

Hello Dave. Thanks, but you may assume a bit much, there.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

knuckle dragger

Hello Bunny. But the technology allowing the rocks to become pointed is beyond me. (Think about your posting name. Heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[Roy Corduroy]

Yes that's a wrap, Tom.

As I mentioned I read Simon's article in Rip 90. Proposing Mary Ann Nichols was not murdered where her body was found on Buck's Row. But instead killed somewhere else, maybe Winthrop Street around the corner. Then her body carried there. Which implies more than one person involved. Which implies not the lone serial killer.

Primarily based on the doctor initially saying he thought the body was moved. And the lack of blood at the scene.

Roy

[Tom_Wescott]

Hi Roy, can we quote you on that?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Cogidubnus]

Alternatively Lynn can carry on doing what he's quite happily been doing for years now, and continue making his ever pertinent observations!

All the best

Dave

[Archaic]

Hi Lynn.

You can also hit the Casebook "Quote" button, then backspace over the lines of text that aren't pertinent to your reply.

(Or scratch them out with a pointy rock; whichever is easier.)

That method keeps the poster's name with their quote, and makes it clear that it is a quote.

Best regards,
Archaic

[lynn cates]

no techno

Hello Roy. Thanks. I forgot to mention my Neo-Luddite aspect too. (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[Roy Corduroy]

By using that key you only put in quotes what you want. Just a suggestion.

Roy

[lynn cates]

Save, at any cost.

Hello Roy. Yes. Thanks. But that takes up so much extra space. I see some posts that have reams of such quotation and two lines in reply.

And since I am by nature a thrifty and economical chap . . .

Cheers.
LC

[Roy Corduroy]

Lynn, the quote key looks like this:



Just highlight text and hit that key. This might be helpful to you I hope.

Roy

[lynn cates]

Buck's Row

Hello Lechmere. Thanks.

"If you are right about prostitutes frequenting the butcher's yard then it implies the local beat police were in some way or another in on it."

Not at all. I don't think that one bloke spending 4d, say, twice a month would exactly bring them flocking.

"It is of course possible that Polly was on her way to the yard if it was such a place."

That is my suggestion.

"However as Brown's Stable Yard is past Winthrop Street, it strongly implies that Polly met someone on Whitechapel Road, before she got to Winthrop Street."

Strongly implies? How so? I believe Polly was headed north, then turned east down Withrop. There she met my lad who was leaving the vicinity of Harrison's. She propositioned him and he misunderstood--he thought he was to RECEIVE money. She led him to Buck's Row. When she asked HIM for money he felt thwarted and began to strangle her, possibly having a delusion of his wife.

"It leaves little room for Polly to bump into Iscenschmidt on Bucks Row"

No, not on Buck's Row. Why would Polly be on Buck's Row BEFORE she had secured a client? My speculation is in my essay. Have you had a go yet?

Cheers.
LC

[Roy Corduroy]

Hi Roy,

Please read my article in Ripperologist No. 90.

Good afternoon Simon,

I did read it, thank you for the tip.

You propose Mary Ann Nichols was not murdered in Buck's Row where her body was found. She was killed somewhere else, maybe Winthrop Street around the corner, then her body moved to Buck's Row, indicating more than one person involved. So she was not a victim of Jack the Ripper. Instead her murder was a one-off with no connection to anything.

Roy