Did the 5 canonical victims know each other?

If her "spouse" had pawned the boots under the name of "John Smith", and was later taken in for drunkenness and discharged under the name of "Tom Smith, 6 Thrawl Street" would we read anything "odd" into that?

First off no-one would care about someones alias involved in a D&D Sam....we are looking at an unsolved murder.

Yes, she may have just thought them up...she may have just used Johns surname and just added all three of Marys names and her street in the 2 versions coincidentally.

If the circumstances were that we knew what Kate had been up to her last 24 hours, that we knew why she turned left out of Bishopsgate when to find her "husband" was a right turn, that we knew she had used those same names and streets before, or that the next woman murdered after her by Jack the Ripper wasnt called Mary Jane Kelly of 13 Millers Court, 26 Dorset Street.....Id be inclined to pay it less attention as well.

Best regards Gareth.


editted to add: Its interesting when you consider the name she gave when she was being booked, "nothing"...maybe she behaved like a clean slate and used names as she felt she needed....just a damn interesting coincidence when coupled with Ms C5.

[Sam Flynn]

Kate had pawned Johns boots as Jane Kelly of 6 Dorset Street, then gave Hutt the name of Mary Kelly of Flower and Dean or Fashion St...I dont recall which....when being released from Bishopsgate. All three of Marys names were used in some form between the 2 "aliases".

If her "spouse" had pawned the boots under the name of "John Smith", and was later taken in for drunkenness and discharged under the name of "Tom Smith, 6 Thrawl Street" would we read anything "odd" into that?

I cant say for sure that this is evidence of knowledge of one Canonical by another, or just a very odd coincidence, but the fact that the last two women who died called themselves Mary Kelly on the night they died is suggestive.

Kate had pawned Johns boots as Jane Kelly of 6 Dorset Street, then gave Hutt the name of Mary Kelly of Flower and Dean or Fashion St...I dont recall which....when being released from Bishopsgate. All three of Marys names were used in some form between the 2 "aliases"....and the name of the street she lived on with the digit "6".

Perhaps John knew Barnett, or they knew Mary, or maybe its just as I said, very odd but benign.

Best regards

[halomanuk]

I don't think you get it!
Last 3 CVs were blackmailing JTR.
Plenty of evidence to support their knowing each other.

Can you list the evidence ?

[Sam Flynn]

Which makes your opinion much greater than Paul Begg's or anyone else.

I looked at the facts and derived an eminently reasonable conclusion from them - it is not my "opinion" at all. I very much doubt that Paul Begg's opinion (which I value highly) is that the victims knew one another, still less that they were embroiled in any conspiracy.

That most of the victims had even a vague connection with Dorset Street at one time or another is, in itself, by no means a fact. There were some 900 people crammed into that street, so it doesn't even follow that they'd have known each other if they'd lived there at the same time - which they emphatically did not.

[Malcolm X]

I don't think you get it!
Last 3 CVs were blackmailing JTR.
Plenty of evidence to support their knowing each other.

come on then tell us all

[Mr.Hyde]

Mr.Hyde

Tricky to find a reason for blackmailing three women who almost certainly didn't know each other.

I don't think you get it!
Last 3 CVs were blackmailing JTR.
Plenty of evidence to support their knowing each other.

[Mr.Hyde]

Mr.Hyde

I have spent years learning about social conditions in Late Victorian London, at least five of which have been taken up in avid study of the Ripper case. Five years might not sound like much, but it's certainly more than 26 minutes.

Which makes your opinion much greater than Paul Begg's or anyone else.

[Sam Flynn]

Good to see that you have spent less than 26 minutes reviewing the facts.

I have spent years learning about social conditions in Late Victorian London, at least five of which have been taken up in avid study of the Ripper case. Five years might not sound like much, but it's certainly more than 26 minutes.

[Mr.Hyde]

Mr.Hyde

It is highly UN-likely that they knew each other, for reasons (NB: not hunches or beliefs) explained on this thread.

Good to see that you have spent less than 26 minutes reviewing the facts.

[Sam Flynn]

Highly likely that all 5 CVs knew each other.

It is highly UN-likely that they knew each other, for reasons (NB: not hunches or beliefs) explained on this thread.

[Mr.Hyde]

Mr.Hyde

So what's your % for highly likely? 90, 80, 75? It's possible that they knew each other but that's as far as I'm prepared to go. Highly likely, to me, means you have something to back that statement up. I'm interested to hear your theory.

100%.

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?p=75970#post75970

Post #10.
Also links through other street addresses.
Feel free to check my listings through my profile.Will save cross posting.

[DVV]

Maybe they were all secret pipe smokers. That's how they knew each other. Went to the same chandler's shop for their ounce of baccy maybe? Jack was lurking, decided he didn't like women smoking.

Exactly, Nothing to See,
and that's why he savagely cut their windclaypipes.

Amitiés,
David

[Nothing to see]

Highly likely that all 5 CVs knew each other.

So what's your % for highly likely? 90, 80, 75? It's possible that they knew each other but that's as far as I'm prepared to go. Highly likely, to me, means you have something to back that statement up. I'm interested to hear your theory.

[Mr.Hyde]

Mr.Hyde

Tricky to find a reason for blackmailing three women who almost certainly didn't know each other.

Highly likely that all 5 CVs knew each other.