Stride Bruising

[lynn cates]

hymnal

Hello Mike. On the other hand, she may have been wearing her only clothes.

Of course, my eyebrows have always been raised at her getting someone to keep her cloth and hymnal.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

C 4.5

Hello Maria. I daresay the "Autumn of Terror" had been different if you had been marked out for mayhem. (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

Well, you betcha. There would have been no Ripperology, and I would have been famous as another Charlotte Corday.

[Wickerman]

Or you and I could collaborate, and then Maria could just agree with me. It would save time.

Why don't we all just agree with you, then we can shut down Casebook altogether.

[Michael W Richards]

Hello Mike. On the other hand, she may have been wearing her only clothes.

Of course, my eyebrows have always been raised at her getting someone to keep her cloth and hymnal.

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn,

Im pretty sure the quote "good evening wear" is attributed to Catherine Lane, who also described seeing Liz in the kitchen around 6-7pm.... "She then had on a long cloak and a black bonnet". The "Then" in that sentence is because Catherine saw her earlier in the day around 11am while she was cleaning, wearing maids clothing. So we know she at least had 1 outfit to clean in and 1 to wear out at night.

She also wanted to borrow Preston's lint brush.

I dont recall ever having read of an unfortunate concerned with lint, her breath, or the cheery nature of her attire, as she headed out to solicit business from sweaty and dirty off work dockers and warehouseman. Some seem to imagine that Liz was woman. However, since she had some paid work from Elizabeth Tanner, and she was "at work among the Jews" during the days, soliciting may not have been necessary at that point in her life anyway.

My best regards,
Mike R

[mariab]

Why don't we all just agree with you, then we can shut down Casebook altogether.

Lol. Good one, Wick.

[Wickerman]

If the killer was a robber, and he was stupid enough to pick the poorest people to rob then he would likely have robbed the victims when they could not resist, not hope that he could scare them into offering up what their pockets contained while they stood there.

Every so often the wind of common sense breezes through like a breath of fresh air...

[lynn cates]

Red Virgin

Hello Maria. Charlotte Corday nothing. I see you as more like Louise Michel, the notorious "Red Virgin." I can see you caning another Anarchist's rear when he displeases you. (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

clothes, etc

Hello Mike. Very well, the lint brush is different.

Do you have the quote for the clothes?

Cheers.
LC

[Wickerman]

... I see you as more like Louise Michel, the notorious "Red Virgin."

Too much information there Lynn, waaay too much information...

[lynn cates]

Kropotkin

Hello Jon. Cute.

Very well, Prince Kropotkin then?

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

Just to clarify: The robbery scenario features the killer having robbed the victims first so that they think it was just a robbery and remain "compliant", before he really attacked them for their life. I'm not saying I agree with this scenario, even if the Ripper evidently robbed Chapman of her rings.

Hello Maria. Charlotte Corday nothing. I see you as more like Louise Michel, the notorious "Red Virgin."

Too much information there Lynn, waaay too much information...

Maybe Lynn knows something I don't, cuz last time I checked...never mind.

[Michael W Richards]

Do you have the quote for the clothes?

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn,

I will find it, its a press report and I dont have the time at this moment. But Ill look for it, and Im certain it reads "good evening wear".

Cheers mate,

Mike R

[Cogidubnus]

Hi all,

The main "theories" discussed either rely on Liz Stride being actively engaged in prostitution on that night or a premise that she was not in fact soliciting that evening and was there on other business.

Perhaps it would be beneficial to factor in that Liz Stride left Goteborg after being a nanny and having her name struck off the registered prostitutes list there. Something few other women accomplished apparently. She arrived in London as a charwoman, worked as a domestic, ran a coffee shop and was said by her landlady just after her death that Liz told her she "was at work among the Jews" the past few months. We have a history of legitimate work right up until her death. That she may have had to prostitute herself from time to time qualifies her for the title Unfortunate, not Prostitute. Thats denotes a full time gig I believe.

She was found dead in her "good" evening wear.. (the statement of a resident at the lodging house), and she is found with mints in her hand and a newly purchased flower and maidenfern on her breast. She had no alcohol in her blood.

Seems to me that a nicely dressed charwoman working among the Jews being near a Jewish men's club on the eve of the Jewish High Holidays may make perfect sense. To some anyway.

Best regards,

Mike R

Hoo bloody ray

Thanks Mike...I was beginning to think I was pretty much alone round here...

Dave

[Tom_Wescott]

Well, if I don't agree with you on something, even a small thing, you either go all or talk me up until I do. This thread and your robbery scenario being the best example.

Is that what I've been doing here, talking YOU up? I'm just addressing my posts to Lynn, Abby, etc., so they don't feel left out?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott