Stride Bruising

[Wickerman]

Hello Lynn, Jon,

I did not say or mean that all press reports should be disbelieved.

Best wishes,
Gwyneth

Oops, my mistake...

Hello Lynn,

Yes, but are we to believe all we read in the press?

Greetings,

Gwyneth

I just saw the word "all", so I naturally assumed....

[lynn cates]

understood

Hello Gwyneth. Thanks.

"I did not say or mean that all press reports should be disbelieved."

no problem--I did not understand you that way.

A bit of truth and error in all--in my opinion.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

whiskers

Hello (again) Jon. Thanks.

"Enough to sport them for thirty odd years... though more discreet than your fine example."

Had mine since I was 16. Over 40 years.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

right

Hello Jon. Thanks.

"For what its worth, I suspect there were Inspectors & Detectives who held diverse opinions on several aspects of the case. Specifically here with respect to the story given by Schwartz I'm sure the same applies.

A Chief Inspector like Swanson will maintain a middle position knowing that the story could not be confirmed nor denied, yet an individual Inspector, perhaps at Leman St. might hold a different opinion.
It would only take one dismissive remark from an official overheard at the station for a reporter to publish that 'the police' have reason to doubt, etc."

Cannot disagree with any of this. Sounds right.

Cheers.
LC

[curious4]

Not all

I had something of this sort happen to me. I witnessed a man begin beating what was presumably his wife. I interjected myself into the situation. He fled. I gave chase. I called 911. Unfortunately his auto was superior to the one I was driving at the time. Many will flee. Many won't. Sad part was that no one seemed to concerned about it.

Hello DLDWatson,

My eldest son intervened alone when a gang of youths were beating a young immigrant couple. He is 6'4 and can take care of himself, but was injured and badly shaken. Fortunately someone had called the police, who arrived in time. He identified the gang and then witnessed against them.

As his mother, I was proud of him, but still wished (a little) that he had run like a rabbit when I thought of what could have happened. The immigrant couple disappeared - they may well have been here illegally or were just afraid of the police. Perhaps I was a little unfair on men in general, but I do understand why Schwarz took to his heels.

Best wishes,
C4

[curious4]

The press

Hello Lynn, Jon,

I did not say or mean that all press reports should be disbelieved.

Best wishes,
Gwyneth

[Wickerman]

Hmm, I think I love you. What are your views on side whiskers? (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

Enough to sport them for thirty odd years... though more discreet than your fine example

[Digalittledeeperwatson]

a personal account

Hello Lynn,

... I venture to suggest that many men would have run like rabbits, then and now.
Best wishes,
Gwyneth

I had something of this sort happen to me. I witnessed a man begin beating what was presumably his wife. I interjected myself into the situation. He fled. I gave chase. I called 911. Unfortunately his auto was superior to the one I was driving at the time. Many will flee. Many won't. Sad part was that no one seemed to concerned about it.

[Wickerman]

Hello Gwyneth. Thanks.

I believe NO story is made from whole cloth. I think EACH story must be looked at critically. Then, when errors are found, we must try to understand WHY the error was made.

So, here:

1. The press confused doubt with belief?

2. The press misunderstood what was said?

3. Other?

I'm game.

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn.

For what its worth, I suspect there were Inspectors & Detectives who held diverse opinions on several aspects of the case. Specifically here with respect to the story given by Schwartz I'm sure the same applies.

A Chief Inspector like Swanson will maintain a middle position knowing that the story could not be confirmed nor denied, yet an individual Inspector, perhaps at Leman St. might hold a different opinion.
It would only take one dismissive remark from an official overheard at the station for a reporter to publish that 'the police' have reason to doubt, etc.

[lynn cates]

bingo

Hello Jon.

"A general dismissal of newspaper accounts is just as unhelpful as a general acceptance. Somewhere between the two extreme's lies the truth."

Hmm, I think I love you. What are your views on side whiskers? (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[Wickerman]

A general dismissal of newspaper accounts is just as unhelpful as a general acceptance. Somewhere between the two extreme's lies the truth.

[lynn cates]

You takes your choice.

Hello Gwyneth. Thanks.

I believe NO story is made from whole cloth. I think EACH story must be looked at critically. Then, when errors are found, we must try to understand WHY the error was made.

So, here:

1. The press confused doubt with belief?

2. The press misunderstood what was said?

3. Other?

I'm game.

Cheers.
LC

[curious4]

Ah, but

Hello Lynn,

Yes, but are we to believe all we read in the press?

Greetings,

Gwyneth

[lynn cates]

Leman

Hello Gwyneth. Thanks.

Actually, a press report indicates that the police at the Leman st station had doubts about his story.

Cheers.
LC

[curious4]

Doubt

Hello Lynn,

I can't see any reason for doubting Schwarz' story, or, indeed any sign that the police did.

I think that what Schwartz said happened, was what happened. Late at night, in a very dodgy part of town and faced with assailants who may, or may not have knives, I venture to suggest that many men would have run like rabbits, then and now. Even men the size of Clive Mantle can get an ear bitten off! We all like to think that we would be heroes, but the instinct for self-preservation often comes first. Also, for all Schwarz knew, the man and woman could have been man and wife - it was legal for a man to "discipline" his wife at the time, and many would have been reluctant to interfere.

Best wishes,
Gwyneth