Did jack kill liz stride?

[Wickerman]

Yes we do, all the time. However, we're still trying to figure out why Brits refer to cookies as 'biscuits'.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Because that's what a biscuit is! ...Since days of Yore!
Which, incidently, predates the colonies

What I want to know is why Americans call scones a biscuit?

[c.d.]

A friend of mine tells the story of the time he was in London. He went into a nice upscale department store to buy some knickers (short pants in the U.S.) to use for cross country skiing. He was waited on by a proper middle age lady who asked him what he was looking for. When he replied knickers she gave him a look and asked if wanted a particular kind. He said heavy wool ones reinforced in the seat with a zipper in them. There was a security guard in the store and she kept trying to get his attention thinking that she was dealing with some kind of crazed pervert. They finally got it straightened out but not without a lot more strange looks exchanged between the two of them.

c.d.

[Tom_Wescott]

Americans say 'sweets' as well. Just depends on where one is from.

Mike

Yes we do, all the time. However, we're still trying to figure out why Brits refer to cookies as 'biscuits'.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[The Good Michael]

In that respect yes, the modern British term 'sweets' (as opposed to American 'candy'), is derived from the all encompassing umbrella word 'sweetmeats'.

Americans say 'sweets' as well. Just depends on where one is from.

Mike

[Wickerman]

Hello Tom, Jon. Actually, "Imps" are a good analogy. That is why I used burnt match tips in my reenactment.

Cheers.
LC

I had the feeling no-one would remember what they were. But those were 'hot' little suckers.

[Wickerman]

Hi Gary, welcome.

‘Sweetmeats’, of course, is a generic term for confectionary, so cachous are sweetmeats.

In that respect yes, the modern British term 'sweets' (as opposed to American 'candy'), is derived from the all encompassing umbrella word 'sweetmeats'.

[Wickerman]

It is interesting that Phillips only mentions cheese, potato & farinaceous edibles as the stomach contents.
No mention of breathmints either in the stomach or the mouth, or nuts, raisins or evidence of dried fruit of any kind consistent with sugarcoated sweetmeats.
Just no mention of either, which leaves us to assume that Stride had not used any from the packet of cachous/sweetmeats.
She had just pulled the packet out from her pocket, or had been handed the packet by someone, then the attack commenced.

[MrBarnett]

Hi all. This is my first post , so please make allowances.

When I was growing up in east London in the 50s and 60s the term cachous meant only one thing: small pill-shaped pieces of hard candy used for sweetening the breath. If you went into a confectioners shop and asked for cachous there would be no discussion as to what you meant by the term. They can still be bought today in old-fashioned sweet shops. (see link below)

Cachous could be bought ready packed in a small box or loose by the ounce when they would be sold in a paper bag. They were not mints as such, having a delicate floral flavour.

Cachous were considered a ‘feminine’ sweet. Delicately flavoured, pastel coloured, and meant to be sucked slowly to release their perfume, they were not the sort of sweet to appeal to boys. They were generally bought by girls and women, and in particular were much favoured by old ladies, my own grandmother (incidentally born in Breezers Hill in 1896) among them.

‘Sweetmeats’, of course, is a generic term for confectionary, so cachous are sweetmeats.

Hope that helps.

Gary.

http://www.victoriahealth.com/product/RecentItems/6370

[c.d.]

I have always wondered why she carried them the way she did and not in her pockets.

c.d.

[lynn cates]

Imps

Hello Tom, Jon. Actually, "Imps" are a good analogy. That is why I used burnt match tips in my reenactment.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

joint planning

Hello Tom. Thanks.

"You mean to say you're conspiring on a conspiracy?"

That's right--in the Latin sense of the word.

"Who's bringing the joints?"

Whoever is in charge of Sunday dinner. (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[Sam Flynn]

You have been away too long, Sam, if you're taking my comments for serious.

No worries, Tom - I caught the vibe. My response was tongue in cheek

[The Good Michael]

Read:

http://sarahjyoung.com/site/2011/01/31/russians-in-london-the-anarchist-threat/

[Tom_Wescott]

You can't go by Blackwell on anything because Johnston had already moved the body and compromised the scene. It seems to me it was Johnston who spilled the cachous, but Blackwell claimed responsibility to protect both himself and Johnston.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Wickerman]

Hi Wick,

They must have been small because all were lodged between her thumb and forefinger and apparently not visible until her hand was opened.

Hi Tom.
I think the words Blackwell used was "partially hidden from view", presumably by the partially closed fingers.
So the packet was visible.

As for sweetmeats, cachous, and breath mints (a modern term), we might be splitting hairs because the terms could have been used generically at the time and in that area.

That is the more likely - interchangeable terms, but that still does not allow us to determine precisely which one she held. A sweetmeat called cachou, or a cachou called a sweetmeat. Size is the obvious difference.

A search in Press Reports turns up 14 uses (1 unrelated) of the term 'cachous', and 10 uses (1 unrelated) of the term 'sweetmeats'.

The fact the term 'cachou' is used by Blackwell & Phillips may tip the scales, though we cannot say for sure.