The Berner Street Con(spiracy)

[Tom_Wescott]

Why in God's name would somebody try to pass himself off as Le Grand? To trade on his good name? I think not. Whatever you're going for here is not working at all. If the police really believed there was something to Packer's story, they would have worked it to its end. The only conspiracy here is that of the 'Berner Street Five', headed by Le Grand.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Stephen Thomas]

One has to try and 'square the circle' or 'cut the Gordian Knot' or whatever regarding Packer's contradictory statements. I would suggest that we just take the old boy's statement in the hallowed precincts of Scotland Yard as the truth of what happened, headgearwise, timewise etc etc.

http://www.casebook.org/witnesses/w/Matthew_Packer.html

And totally ignore everything else.

[Tom_Wescott]

His statement to Smith immediately following the murders is the ONLY statement that can be taken as truth. Anything he said after Le Grand found him is useless for our purposes.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Simon Wood]

Hi Stephen,

Careful who you're calling an old boy. As you earlier pointed out, Packer was younger then than you and I are now.

Contradictory statements? What ACB recorded in the hallowed precincts of Scotland Yard is substantially the same story Packer told the Evening News.

The only contradiction is Stephen White's alleged interview with Packer, which the fruiterer claimed never happened the day before White claimed that it had.

Regards,

Simon

[Tom_Wescott]

Of course White interviewed Packer when he said he had. They interviewed everyone on the street and due to his proximity to the club, he would have been among the first. Le Grand paid him to tell a story, so he did. Packer only cooperated with the police because he thought THEY would give him money.

People with a police persecution complex who want to find a conspiracy lurking behind every badge have plenty of material to work with in the Ripper saga, but in this instance, the police are in the clear.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Cap'n Jack]

Never mind goodwill, Simon, we deal with a serial killer here.
Is it not right to suppose that apart from an envelope there is nothing to support Tom's grand and bland premise?

[Simon Wood]

Hi Cap'n Jack,

There were no serial killers in Berner Street on the morning of 30th September. But that's another story . . .

Tom's a good man trapped in a rut in which every word uttered by LVP cops is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Time for a quantum leap, Tom. The real truth shall set you free.

Regards,

Simon

[Tom_Wescott]

Simon,

Tell me who think killed Liz Stride so we can stop speaking in riddles.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[John Bennett]

There have been several posts in the last few months on various threads on various subjects where various posters have effectively said that:

a) We cannot believe police reports in the LVP
b) We cannot believe the press in the LVP
c) We cannot believe the census returns of the LVP
d) We cannot believe the social commentators in the LVP

It's happening here too.

Just an observation.

JB

[Tom_Wescott]

Disregard that, folks. We cannot believe anything John Bennett says.

The only dependable source is Albert Bachert.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Simon Wood]

Hi Tom,

All I can tell you is that Stride's murderer wasn't someone known as JtR who, interrupted by a Jewish pedlar, skulked off scraping his knuckles along the pavement to Mitre Square where he murdered Catherine Eddowes.

But the evidence sure was made to look that way.

I'm writing about it at the moment.

Regards,

Simon

[Simon Wood]

Hi John,

We can believe [c] and [d] and most of [b], but must take [a] with a large pinch of salt.

Regards,

Simon

[John Bennett]

Disregard that, folks. We cannot believe anything John Bennett says.

The only dependable source is Albert Bachert.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

I assume that's said with a certain amount of , Tom?

[Jeff Leahy]

Why cant we believe anything John Bennett says?

Is he an Anarchist? or worse a school teacher?

[Tom_Wescott]

Yes, John, I was just having fun with you. And I agree. Too many researchers are quick to deem all the cops as crooks when the evidence gets in the way of their theories. Were the police perfect? Lord no, but all involved in a conspiracy to keep Jack free? Come on!

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott