A problem with the "Eddowes Shawl" DNA match

[GUT]

Unfortunately, it is cheap filler content. Pad out an issue with what amounts to advertising that looks like news.

Appreciate your cool approach, as opposed to rabid not trendy, to issues on here GUT.

cheers, gryff

G'day Gryff

Don't worry I can get rabid.

But thanks.

[mickreed]

Hello Mick and Gut,

Mediawatch last week covered the topic of the Daily Mail's recycling.

Just watched it Dusty. Thanks.

Bloody shameless. RE certainly went to the right paper to break his 'story'.

[mickreed]

G'day Mick

I am really shocked that they're not shouting from the rooftop "We stuffed it".

But boy isn't RE's page busy [not].

I would shout it. There's a book in it surely.

Confessions of Seeker after Truth, or How I stuffed up but still made loads.

[Peter Griffith aka gryff]

He's sure not talking about the latest news on his Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/JackTheRipperOfficialTour

For that matter, neither is JL

https://www.facebook.com/Dr.Jari.Louhelainen

University profs with Facebook pages - and pretty trivial at that

I'm getting very, very old

cheers, gryff

[Amanda]

Shame..

University profs with Facebook pages - and pretty trivial at that

I'm getting very, very old

cheers, gryff

Hi Gryff,

Well, RE's not facing the critics but he's shamelessly giving out Ripper mugs and Ripper chocolate bars!
That guy never misses an opportunity does he?

Amanda

[mickreed]

They're eviscerated

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/186322#.VETNgodAWIE

[GUT]

They're eviscerated

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...2#.VETNgodAWIE

And some of those commenting sound that they'd like to do something that sounds a bit like eviscerate Edwards.

[Peter Griffith aka gryff]

Hi Gryff,

Well, RE's not facing the critics but he's shamelessly giving out Ripper mugs and Ripper chocolate bars!
That guy never misses an opportunity does he?

Amanda

As I posted earlier, I was appalled by the Lip Balm There is one word that comes to my mind Amanda - well actually two words - TACKY TAT

cheers, gryff

[GUT]

As I posted earlier, I was appalled by the Lip Balm There is one word that comes to my mind Amanda - well actually two words - TACKY TAT

cheers, gryff

Yeah but he does have Black Jelly beans so he can't be all bad.

[mickreed]

Yeah but he does have Black Jelly beans so he can't be all bad.

Gut,

What's happened to all those who said you can't argue with the science? Have they carked it from a surfeit of black jbs?

[lynn cates]

scarpering

Hello Mick.

"What's happened to all those who said you can't argue with the science?"

Well, that's what I want to know. After being subjected to a steady diet of "provenance means nothing since her DNA is on the shawl" it seems that the proponents have scarpered.

Just as well--those who shout loudest about science often understand it least.

Cheers.
LC

[robhouse]

Hello Mick.

"What's happened to all those who said you can't argue with the science?"

Well, that's what I want to know. After being subjected to a steady diet of "provenance means nothing since her DNA is on the shawl" it seems that the proponents have scarpered.

Just as well--those who shout loudest about science often understand it least.

Cheers.
LC

I am not sure who, if anyone, actually said that. Perhaps you can post some quotes.

I may have said something like "provenance means nothing since IF her DNA is on the shawl"... which I still stand by.

RH

[Lechmere]

Are you suggesting that those who should loudest about their mastery of the intricacies of the English language often understand it the least?

[Colin Roberts]

"What's happened to all those who said you can't argue with the science?"

Well, that's what I want to know. After being subjected to a steady diet of "provenance means nothing since her DNA is on the shawl" it seems that the proponents have scarpered.

Just as well--those who shout loudest about science often understand it least.

"If, as the book is claiming, Catherine Eddowes was one of approximately twenty Londoners living in 1888, that could have deposited the strand of mtDNA that was extracted from a presumably apparent blood stain on the 'shawl'; then there is a distinct possibility that the garment was in Mitre Square on the morning of 30 September, 1888, regardless of its exclusion from the historical record."

http://forum.casebook.org/showpost.php?p=312007&postcount=4156

The thread in which I made the above statement is closed, so I am unable to utilize the quote function as a direct link; but I think you'll find that my proclamation was about as bold as any that have been made by the standing members of this community.

Straw-man argumentation doesn't become you, Lynn; and neither does your inclination to sneer at a discipline that is based entirely upon trial and error.

A renowned expert has apparently made a sophomoric error. That shouldn't give rise to feelings of vindication or inclinations to chortle.

My celebrations are always less than exuberant whenever the other side scores an own goal.

[Colin Roberts]

Are you suggesting that those who should loudest about their mastery of the intricacies of the English language often understand it the least?

The usage of "whom", by some around here (cough, cough), most definitely needs to be revisited.