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  • Aethelwulf
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    Originally posted by DJA View Post

    Dr Brown thought the murderer possessed ‘a good deal of knowledge as to the position of the organs in the abdominal cavity and the way of removing them’

    Best you read your own original post.

    Are you aware of the significance of Eddowes' navel being cut around?
    Rhetorical question
    As I said 'most ridiculous': The two Xanthelasmas required light and a small scalpel,so Sutton strangled Eddowes inside 6 Mitre Street, whilst waiting for Edward Watkin to make his 1.30am pass with lantern.

    6 days too late with this one I'm afraid.

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  • DJA
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    Originally posted by Aethelwulf View Post

    This thread has already descended into farce and should be renamed 'most ridiculous theories'!
    Dr Brown thought the murderer possessed ‘a good deal of knowledge as to the position of the organs in the abdominal cavity and the way of removing them’

    Best you read your own original post.

    Are you aware of the significance of Eddowes' navel being cut around?
    Rhetorical question
    Last edited by DJA; 04-07-2022, 02:24 PM.

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  • Aethelwulf
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    Originally posted by GBinOz View Post

    Dave, do you have a theory as to which injuries were inflicted in Mitre Square and which were inflicted before Mitre Square?

    Cheers, George
    This thread has already descended into farce and should be renamed 'most ridiculous theories'!

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  • DJA
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    Originally posted by GBinOz View Post

    Dave, do you have a theory as to which injuries were inflicted in Mitre Square and which were inflicted before Mitre Square?

    Cheers, George
    The two Xanthelasmas required light and a small scalpel,so Sutton strangled Eddowes inside 6 Mitre Street, whilst waiting for Edward Watkin to make his 1.30am pass with lantern.
    The other injuries would have been inflicted in the corner of Mitre Square.

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  • GBinOz
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    Originally posted by DJA View Post
    No blood spray.

    Eddowes was strangled.

    The eyelid cuts required light,so not done in Mitre Square where she was found.
    Dave, do you have a theory as to which injuries were inflicted in Mitre Square and which were inflicted before Mitre Square?

    Cheers, George

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

    Or this senario


    Jack and kate walk through chuch passage ,a little small talk , terms and conditions are agreed to. they arrive at the darkest corner of the square where by kate has placed herself up against the wall ,fence ,gate , whatever . [Her back facing jack]

    kate turns around to see where jack is, at that moment he seizes his chance and decides to attact kate slashing side to side with his knife cutting her face and eveylids and nose off. All the time kate is screaming at the very top of her voice for the whole of Mitre Square to hear. Jack decides to shut her up so grabbing her by the throat he squeeezes the life out of her as she collapses to to ground . He takes out his knife and cuts her throat nearly servering her neck right off ,as he is just about to start disembowing her abdomen people from inside the buildings surrounding Mitre Sq come rushing out to see where all the screams, scuffle ,and echoing noises were coming from .

    Completly oblivious to the large crowd that has now gathered around him, jack starts to extract kates kidney and intestines while onlookers throw up everywhere . He tells them to all f off as he cuts kates apron to wipe his hands of blood , faeces, and vomit from the odd onlooker, jack quickly makes his escape via Mitre st to the shock and horror of the good people of Mitre Square.

    The reality is , the'' Vs'' and the niks to the eyelids where done after death. Not before. Thank you F.W Foster
    There is no evidnce that Foster attended the crime scene all his sketches were made later and some may have been from the sketches made by Dr Brown.

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  • FISHY1118
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post

    So the killer had the time to walk down Church passage to the murder location, carry out the murder and mutilations, rifle her pockets, surgically remove vital organs with insufficent light available to him, then cut a piece of her apron finishing off, with carving out letters to her cheeks and then nicking her eyelids all in under 5mins or 3 if you accpet what Dr Sequeira says

    You need a reality check !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    www.trevormarriott.co.uk
    Or this senario


    Jack and kate walk through chuch passage ,a little small talk , terms and conditions are agreed to. they arrive at the darkest corner of the square where by kate has placed herself up against the wall ,fence ,gate , whatever . [Her back facing jack]

    kate turns around to see where jack is, at that moment he seizes his chance and decides to attact kate slashing side to side with his knife cutting her face and eveylids and nose off. All the time kate is screaming at the very top of her voice for the whole of Mitre Square to hear. Jack decides to shut her up so grabbing her by the throat he squeeezes the life out of her as she collapses to to ground . He takes out his knife and cuts her throat nearly servering her neck right off ,as he is just about to start disembowing her abdomen people from inside the buildings surrounding Mitre Sq come rushing out to see where all the screams, scuffle ,and echoing noises were coming from .

    Completly oblivious to the large crowd that has now gathered around him, jack starts to extract kates kidney and intestines while onlookers throw up everywhere . He tells them to all f off as he cuts kates apron to wipe his hands of blood , faeces, and vomit from the odd onlooker, jack quickly makes his escape via Mitre st to the shock and horror of the good people of Mitre Square.

    The reality is , the'' Vs'' and the niks to the eyelids where done after death. Not before. Thank you F.W Foster

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  • Ms Diddles
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    Originally posted by DJA View Post
    Xanthelasma.
    Ta! Just wondered!

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  • DJA
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    Xanthelasma.

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  • Ms Diddles
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    Originally posted by DJA View Post
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    What's the name of that condition pictured, Dave?

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  • FISHY1118
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    You quote my post but ignored it contents like you always do . And be careful trevor about insults, remember admin will be watching

    Like i said, that forster sketch really hammers the nail in the coffin about your theory doesnt it .

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

    [Coroner] Can you tell us what was the cause of death? - Dr Brown The cause of death was haemorrhage from the throat. Death must have been immediate.


    [Coroner] Have you any doubt in your own mind whether there was a struggle? - Dr Brown I feel sure there was no struggle. I see no reason to doubt that it was the work of one man.


    Your aware of the meaning of ''immediate'' are you not ?

    Now if someone puts their own hand over their mouth and pretends [pretends mind you ] to cut their throat, So how do they perform the ''Vs'' on each side of the their cheekes ?

    No struggle ,throat cut immedialtly, death instant , now do you see why the ''Vs'' were after death ?

    And they are ''Vs'' and ''niks'' , and Fosters sketch proves it, just 2 hours later . To suggest anything else is .....


    If it doesnt agree with experiment its a lie .
    So the killer had the time to walk down Church passage to the murder location, carry out the murder and mutilations, rifle her pockets, surgically remove vital organs with insufficent light available to him, then cut a piece of her apron finishing off, with carving out letters to her cheeks and then nicking her eyelids all in under 5mins or 3 if you accpet what Dr Sequeira says

    You need a reality check !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • FISHY1118
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    Mr. Crawford, City Solicitor, again watched the case on behalf of the police.
    Dr. G. W. Sequeira, surgeon, of No. 34, Jewry-street, Aldgate, deposed: On the morning of Sept. 30 I was called to Mitre-square, and I arrived at five minutes to two o'clock, being the first medical man on the scene of the murder. I saw the position of the body, and I entirely agree with the evidence of Dr. Gordon Brown in that respect.
    By Mr. Crawford: I am well acquainted with the locality and the position of the lamps in the square. Where the murder was committed was probably the darkest part of the square, ''but there was sufficient light to enable the miscreant to perpetrate the deed''. I think that the murderer had no design on any particular organ of the body. He was not possessed of any great anatomical skill.
    [Coroner] Can you account for the absence of noise? - The death must have been instantaneous after the severance of the windpipe and the blood-vessels.
    [Coroner] Would you have expected the murderer to be bespattered with blood? - Not necessarily.


    ''The eyelid cuts required light,so not done in Mitre Square where she was found''.

    You might want to re think that part .

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  • FISHY1118
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    Originally posted by DJA View Post
    No blood spray.

    Eddowes was strangled.

    The eyelid cuts required light,so not done in Mitre Square where she was found.
    SO where is the struggle from Eddows while she lay unconsious on the ground,? the facial injuries occurred [accounding to you know who] while she was trying to pull JTR hands from her mouth!!

    Impossible . Therefor his not correct is he ?. and he knows it .

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  • DJA
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    No blood spray.

    Eddowes was strangled.

    The eyelid cuts required light,so not done in Mitre Square where she was found.

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