Kidney From Hell

[DJA]

Duplicating machines - Wikipedia

[JeffHamm]

[QUOTE=Trevor Marriott;n784368]

Hi Jeff

I dont know the answer to your specific question, I can only assume that the originals were at some point in the main police or coroners file, and what we see now are photos taken of those orginal sketches before the main files went awol.

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

Ok, thanks Trevor. I see from Dave's post the line is a crease on a bigger piece of paper that the copy of the sketch has been put on.

I think, though, given the larger context the image is embedded in, the wording means the sketch as shown on the poster is from Foster's sketch that he made at the mortuary, not that Foster copied a sketch that was at the mortuary.

Still looking to find out how they made those copies back in 1888.

- Jeff

[DJA]

Here is the original.

[Trevor Marriott]

[QUOTE=JeffHamm;n784365]

Hi Trevor,

I'm wondering if you, or anyone else actually, can fill me in on something. There's a line running across the top of the image, passing just above Eddowes' head, that looks like it could be a torn edge of paper and the text, that appears to have been typed, runs above it. If that's the case, then this is an image of a copy of the original sketch, and that copy has then been itemized by a clerk in the police for evidence purposes I presume.

I'm curious how they made copies of these types of items, like a hand drawn sketch, the Dear Boss letter, From Hell, etc. There weren't photocopiers, and the letters were reproduced in colour, so it wasn't photography. But it seems to capture not only the writing/drawing, but also details like the edge of the paper, and so forth. And the images appear to be of a very high resolution. I'm curious to find out how they did this, but I don't know what the process was called so I can look up the details myself to satisfy my curiosity.

If anyone can tell me how they made these that would be great, but if it's a complicated and tedious thing to describe, just the name of the process would be enough and I can look it up.

Sorry to divert from the main point.

- Jeff

Hi Jeff

I dont know the answer to your specific question, I can only assume that the originals were at some point in the main police or coroners file, and what we see now are photos taken of those orginal sketches before the main files went awol.

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[Ms Diddles]

Bit more info for you

671.full.pdf

Thanks Dave!

Much appreciated!

Just home from the pub.

Will read and digest that tomorrow when I'm clearer headed!

[JeffHamm]

[QUOTE=Trevor Marriott;n784345]

Yes thats it read it again"from a sketch - taken at the mortuary" Foster copied some of Browns sketches I presume because Brwom was that good an artist

Sometime I do wonder about you sanity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

Hi Trevor,

I'm wondering if you, or anyone else actually, can fill me in on something. There's a line running across the top of the image, passing just above Eddowes' head, that looks like it could be a torn edge of paper and the text, that appears to have been typed, runs above it. If that's the case, then this is an image of a copy of the original sketch, and that copy has then been itemized by a clerk in the police for evidence purposes I presume.

I'm curious how they made copies of these types of items, like a hand drawn sketch, the Dear Boss letter, From Hell, etc. There weren't photocopiers, and the letters were reproduced in colour, so it wasn't photography. But it seems to capture not only the writing/drawing, but also details like the edge of the paper, and so forth. And the images appear to be of a very high resolution. I'm curious to find out how they did this, but I don't know what the process was called so I can look up the details myself to satisfy my curiosity.

If anyone can tell me how they made these that would be great, but if it's a complicated and tedious thing to describe, just the name of the process would be enough and I can look it up.

Sorry to divert from the main point.

- Jeff

[DJA]

Ta! Just wondered!

Bit more info for you

671.full.pdf

[FISHY1118]

[QUOTE=Trevor Marriott;n784345]

Yes thats it read it again"from a sketch - taken at the mortuary" Foster copied some of Browns sketches I presume because Brwom was that good an artist

Sometime I do wonder about you sanity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

Im, more than happy trevor to discuss the case with you and although we see things differently thats ok, as long as we dont take it the next level and start hurling insults at one another ok ? olive brance .

[FISHY1118]

[QUOTE=Trevor Marriott;n784345]

Yes thats it read it again"from a sketch - taken at the mortuary" Foster copied some of Browns sketches I presume because Brwom was that good an artist

Sometime I do wonder about you sanity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

And there lies the problem Trevor ,you presume too much with no proof what so ever .


Theres just no evidence, nothing at all to suggest dr brown went to the morge after he left the crime scene to drop off or make futher sketches for foster to copy.

The body of eddowes was taken there at 2.35am if brown had already taken a skecth at the crime scene which he himself turned up at 2.20 am giving only 15 mins or so to make such an elaborate sketch WHICH HAS NO DATE OR TIME ATTATCHED TO IT , why on earth would he go to the morge to make another or leave one there. .

Now as ive said befor be careful what you say, thats the second time you have insulted me ,and admin gave us a warning specificy not to partake in such actions , i will be messaging my thoughts about this matter .

[Trevor Marriott]

[QUOTE=FISHY1118;n784343]

Oh my god , your serious arent you?

So Foster took a sketch from a sketch that was at the mortuary where the body of the person in the sketch was there? . ? Is that it ?

Yes thats it read it again"from a sketch - taken at the mortuary" Foster copied some of Browns sketches I presume because Brwom was that good an artist

Sometime I do wonder about you sanity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[FISHY1118]

"from a sketch" the sketch was made by Dr Brown at 3.45am


How do we know Dr Brown was at the mortuary at 3.45am ?

[FISHY1118]

[QUOTE=Trevor Marriott;n784341]

What was he doing at the mortuary at 3.45am on the 30th SEPT 1888, two hours after Eddowes death sketching her body ?[/QUOTE

You need to read things properly "from a sketch" the sketch was made by Dr Brown at 3.45am

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

Oh my god , your serious arent you?

So Foster took a sketch from a sketch that was at the mortuary where the body of the person in the sketch was there? . ? Is that it ?

[Trevor Marriott]

[QUOTE=FISHY1118;n784340]

What was he doing at the mortuary at 3.45am on the 30th SEPT 1888, two hours after Eddowes death sketching her body ?[/QUOTE

You need to read things properly "from a sketch" the sketch was made by Dr Brown at 3.45am

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[FISHY1118]

Foster was only at the post mortem by that time the body had been stripped

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What was he doing at the mortuary at 3.45am on the 30th SEPT 1888, two hours after Eddowes death sketching her body ?

[Trevor Marriott]

Hi George , i think you missed what i was alluding too , if you were Dr George and you were at the Eddowes murder scene doing that exact sketch as he did, what do you think you might put on the top left hand corner of the paper ?

Ill give you a clue, its on Fosters sketch.

So again, if the Brown sketch was indeed done at the murder scene [??? ] it doesnt change the fact Foster was at the Morguary when he done his. So it seems almost laughable he would copy Browns when Eddowes was right in front of him.

Foster was only at the post mortem by that time the body had been stripped

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk