Eddowes Pawn Ticket/Finances (moved from another thread)

[lynn cates]

Friday

Hello Jon. Thanks. I will agree with THIS--whoever owned the boots, they were DEFINITELY pawned on Friday.

Cheers.
LC

[Wickerman]

Hi Lynn.

Hello Jon. Thanks. Yes, that's the one. Too bad he could not recall whether it was day (Saturday) or night (Friday).

Cheers.
LC

Hey, when you live without a watch knowing the exact time is always a chore, and if it was anywhere near midnight when his boots were pawned then whether it was late Friday night or early Saturday morning is superfluous to him.

Wasn't that ticket dated 28th? - so Friday.

Regards, Jon S.

[lynn cates]

day/night

Hello Jon. Thanks. Yes, that's the one. Too bad he could not recall whether it was day (Saturday) or night (Friday).

Cheers.
LC

[Wickerman]

I take it "claimed" is the important word here.

Is there a record of him appearing anywhere barefoot?

My missus pawned the boots, and I stood outside the shop with bare feet.
Daily News, 5 Oct. 1888.

Regards, Jon S.

[lynn cates]

new?

Hello Colin. Thanks. Yes, that is correct. Of course, they were not so new if they both walked from Hunton.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

possibilities

Hello Velma. Thanks. Oops, missed your earlier post.

Those are ALL possibilities.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

no clue

Hello Velma. Thanks. "The Times" has Anne Kelly.

No idea what it means. Open to suggestion.

Cheers.
LC

[curious]

Hello Velma. Thanks. Yes, quite difficult. But she often used Conway, as Sally points out, and now the switch to Anne Kelly. What does it mean?

Cheers.
LC

Actually, it was apparently Jane Kelly with the pawn broker and Mary Anne Kelly at the jail.

No idea what it means.

What do you think it means?

[curious]

Nothing to say he couldn't have pawned a nice new set of boots, and the deal he got was five bob and an ancient pair in return...

Just a thought

Dave

good, hadn't thought of that possibility

[Cogidubnus]

Nothing to say he couldn't have pawned a nice new set of boots, and the deal he got was five bob and an ancient pair in return...

Just a thought

Dave

[Bridewell]

Hello (again) Velma. John claimed he was barefoot after the pawning. Of course, he worked some on Saturday morning, so must have been shod by then?

Cheers.
LC

One (unintended?) side-effect of pawning your boyfriend's boots would be that he would be seriously restricted in his movements until he got hold of another pair.

[curious]

Hello (again) Velma. John claimed he was barefoot after the pawning. Of course, he worked some on Saturday morning, so must have been shod by then?

Cheers.
LC

I take it "claimed" is the important word here.

Is there a record of him appearing anywhere barefoot?

And how could he have been shod on Saturday morning if:

1. she pawned his boots Friday night?
OR
2. she pawned his boots Saturday morning?

Either he had more than one pair of boots or . ..

maybe she pawned stolen boots . . . .

or perhaps she didn't pawn any boots at all.

[lynn cates]

barefoot and . . .

Hello (again) Velma. John claimed he was barefoot after the pawning. Of course, he worked some on Saturday morning, so must have been shod by then?

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

switch

Hello Velma. Thanks. Yes, quite difficult. But she often used Conway, as Sally points out, and now the switch to Anne Kelly. What does it mean?

Cheers.
LC

[curious]

Hi Lynn

Good point. Maybe Victorian respectability.

But, John Kelly states he is single on his admittance into the Infirmary later that year.

Do we have any record of Kelly ever going by a different name?

After Eddowes was killed, did John have boots, or was there any mention of him showing up barefoot?