Why Mutilate The Nose Specifically?

[Wickerman]

Hi Dave,

It would also indicate that Eddowes herself was identified by her killer as an informer. (Prostitutes have always been a good source of information for the police - at least some of them). It would have to be serious informing about someone very nasty to provoke such a vicious response. If she really did know the identity of the 'Ripper', how on earth did he get her to drop her guard?

Begins to sound too much like espionage..
I mean, how ironic is it that the killer knew where she was, at what time, on that night?
Someone informed on the informer?

See what I mean...

[Cogidubnus]

Oh come on Jon...How difficult or spy-like is it to envisage the blackmailed turning on the blackmailer? Whilst speculative, it's not exactly a complicated motive.

All the best

Dave

[Paddy]

Catherine seemed pretty canny, I think she would go for a reward. Didnt the vigilance lot put a reward up? I seem to remember someone did?
Pat..............................

[lynn cates]

simple

Hello Dave.

"Oh come on Jon...How difficult or spy-like is it to envisage the blackmailed turning on the blackmailer? Whilst speculative, it's not exactly a complicated motive."

And that's a reasonable motive--one a simple bloke like me can understand.

Cheers.
LC

[Wickerman]

Yes Lynn/Dave, but if the blackmailed killed the blackmailer (metaphorically speaking), how did the blackmailed know where to find the blackmailer on 'that' particular night?

Ie, enter informer No. 2

Thats what I mean.

[lynn cates]

workplace

Hello Jon. Thanks. As Dave said, it was merely peculation.

"but if the blackmailed killed the blackmailer (metaphorically speaking), how did the blackmailed know where to find the blackmailer on 'that' particular night?"

It would have to be that the other worked at Bishopsgate Station--or from there. Just hypothetically.

Cheers.
LC

[Wickerman]

Hello Jon. Thanks. As Dave said, it was merely peculation.

"but if the blackmailed killed the blackmailer (metaphorically speaking), how did the blackmailed know where to find the blackmailer on 'that' particular night?"

It would have to be that the other worked at Bishopsgate Station--or from there. Just hypothetically.

Cheers.
LC

Well yes Lynn, the plot thickens once you begin to contemplate Eddowes being targeted by the killer. On that particular night she was out of her routine so, if her killer did target her (for blackmail or any other reason) then "he" was extremely lucky to stumble across the one person who thought they knew him or...... he was informed about the informer by someone who knew where she was.

A l t o g e t h e r w a y t o o c o m p l i c a t e d

Regards, Jon S.

[lynn cates]

kept

Hello Jon. Thanks. And I cannot abide complicated. Nor can I countenance "stumbling across her."

Could the drinks bought have been to intoxicate? That, along with a knowledge of City of London procedures, could almost guarantee her being kept for a later time.

Cheers.
LC

[curious]

Hello Jon. Thanks. And I cannot abide complicated. Nor can I countenance "stumbling across her."

Could the drinks bought have been to intoxicate? That, along with a knowledge of City of London procedures, could almost guarantee her being kept for a later time.

Cheers.
LC

So, he was lying in wait for her to be released?

[lynn cates]

maybe

Hello Velma. Thanks. Something like that. Just speculation, of course.

Cheers.
LC

[richardnunweek]

Hi ,
Is it not possible that Eddowes ,in order to obtain the reward money, volunteered herself as a decoy.
It is again possible that she knew the district the killer operated in, and knew him by sight, and she was attempting to put the finger on him, by placing a hand on his chest,
In this scenario she would have been followed , and she would have believed that the police would have been close by, to detain this individual.
But it could have gone horribly wrong , especially if the man that approached the night-watchman in orange place, was the policeman detailed to observe.
All Hitchcock plot, but it would fit a lot of what we know.
Regards Richard

[lynn cates]

knowledge

Hello Richard. But it would require:

1. Kate to know this person (as you point out).

2. Whence did she discover his identity? Was it in Kent? Upon return?

3. The assailant would need to know Watkins's beat AND that he were doing a reverse beat on that night.

Cheers.
LC

[richardnunweek]

Hi Lynn.
Granted..but what if that area was his stalking ground, in the area of the prostitute's church, he would have been well versed with the police patrols.
she may have simply,, had a strong reason for suspecting this man from past experiences, or word of mouth.
Regards Richard

[lynn cates]

stalking ground

Hello Richard. Thanks.

Very well. But IF that were his stalking ground, what happened on Buck's Row and Hanbury? He got started AWAY from his stalking ground?

Cheers.
LC

[curious]

Hello Velma. Thanks. Something like that. Just speculation, of course.

Cheers.
LC

Hi, Lynn,
so, she steps out the jail door, and he goes "Psssssst" and motions her over?

do you think she knew him before their afternoon of boozing?

did she think he was the killer but that she could handle him and was perhaps trying to blackmail him?

Did he need to find out if she had said anything to the policemen?

What's your thinking on this?

Thanks,

Velma