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I zoomed in on the photo of Mary Kelly and I saw how frightened her eyes looked, it was actually very clear. She was looking down and you could clearly see her mouth omg
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Originally posted by DJA View Post
Because blackmail was more lucrative.
Because blackmail was and still is a crime.
He Didn't have to say that he sent his woman to a woman-killer to blackmail!
Last edited by Leanne; 08-21-2019, 10:42 PM.
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Originally posted by Leanne View PostWhy didn't this morally clean woman go to the few people who offered a reward at this stage for information with her suspicions? I think at this early stage only the mayor offered something and the editor of the Police News.
If you believe John Kelly knew what Kate was doing and the murderer solved the problem by getting rid of her instead of paying the hush money, why didn't this anger Kelly enough to give the incriminating information to the police?
Because blackmail was and still is a crime.
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Originally posted by Leanne View Post
Why do you think he deliberately lied and wanted them to think it was on Saturday morning that they pawned the boots?
What was he trying to hide?
Shoe Lane was her old friend of 20 years,Polly Nichols' old stomping ground.
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Why didn't this morally clean woman go to the few people who offered a reward at this stage for information with her suspicions? I think at this early stage only the mayor offered something and the editor of the Police News.
If you believe John Kelly knew what Kate was doing and the murderer solved the problem by getting rid of her instead of paying the hush money, why didn't this anger Kelly enough to give the incriminating information to the police?
Last edited by Leanne; 08-21-2019, 12:47 PM.
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Originally posted by Michael W Richards View PostI think Kate had a meeting, prearranged. It may have been to meet someone at one location and then being sent to another. Kellys story is suspicious, he doesn't even seem concerned that as of Monday night Kate was still unaccounted for. When he knew where she was Saturday night and that she would soon be released.
I think Kate sought hush money for what she knew, underestimating how nasty her potential reward money individuals were.
I don't understand what you are convinced happened! Please enlighten me! SPIT IT OUT!
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Originally posted by Michael W Richards View Post
Im often puzzled by your posts, where did you ever get the idea that I though John killed her, or that he wanted the Police to think it was the Ripper. Read my posts...Ive never said anything like that here or anywhere. I said that Johns mistakes in his statements lead one to question whether he was being truthfull...so you don't screw this up to, one example is when he says he knew Kate was in jail. Another is when the boots were pawned. Mistakes or lies?
What was he trying to hide?
Last edited by Leanne; 08-21-2019, 09:00 AM.
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She may have saved some of the tea, a quarter of a pound of cheap tea was approx sixpence, but that does not explain where she got the money to get very drunk unless someone bought her drinks.
Miss Marple
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Originally posted by Michael W Richards View Post
Im often puzzled by your posts, where did you ever get the idea that I though John killed her, or that he wanted the Police to think it was the Ripper. Read my posts...Ive never said anything like that here or anywhere. I said that Johns mistakes in his statements lead one to question whether he was being truthfull...so you don't screw this up to, one example is when he says he knew Kate was in jail. Another is when the boots were pawned. Mistakes or lies?
I think the reason he didn't ask about her, seek her out, ask friends if they had seen her, check with where he knew she was in jail Saturday night, is because he already knew she was dead Tuesdaybeforereading any paper. That just confirmed it I believe.
How did he know she was dead?
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Originally posted by Leanne View PostIf you think he killed her, why do you suppose he didn't lie about his concern in his testimony?
If he wanted the police to think that she was a victim of Jack The Ripper, why didn't he say that she sometimes sold favors?
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If it is true that all the boot money was spent on food and drink, them it does appear Kate was bought drinks, later possibly in return for favours. I think we have see the situation of Kelly and Kate from the perspective of the time. Yes they were a couple, based on convenience and mutual support. For people at the bottom of the heap with no income, particularly for a woman, to team up with a man to share costs would make life a little easier ,but as both were destitute most of the time, the reality was that Kate may have done some extra sexual favours just to keep body and soul together, as did many poverty stricken women, but they would not have seen themselves as prostitutes. I am sure Kelly would have been aware of this, but as a matter of respect for Kate not to mention it, but consider it none of his business.
So if she disappeared for a while, he knew she always came back, he trusted her, they were dependant on each other, which could be why he had such a laissez faire attitude to her disappearing. In terms of the boots the importance was not the day they were sold but what they bought. I think Kelly would have prioritised the day they had some money. He does seem to be lacking in imagination and urgency but he was not a well man.
Miss MarpleLast edited by miss marple; 08-20-2019, 04:40 PM.
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