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  • #31
    Originally posted by Stewart P Evans View Post

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    Hello Stewart, all,

    Having studied this photograph at great length, there are discrepancies I would like to discuss. First of all, the "tattoo" on her right arm.

    It certainly does not say "T.C." The writing appears to be reversed and inverted. Neither does it say "Conway" nor "Kelly" nor "Eddowes". Thoughts anyone?

    best wishes

    Phil
    Last edited by Phil Carter; 02-19-2010, 03:02 AM.
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    • #32
      the tattoo enhanced

      Hello all,

      Here is the tattoo .. you may have to enhance it to 200%

      All I have done is reverse it, and colour the background, with darker shading to try to enhance the letters.

      What do YOU think it says?...

      (A hint... it isn't TC, Conway, Kelly...)

      best wishes

      Phil
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      • #33
        Hello all,

        As well as the "tattoo", take a look at what is under "Eddowes" chin.. again, you may have to enhance it to see it clearer. All I have done is shade and colour the picture to try to enhance it.

        I may well be mistaken, but a row of pearly white teeth isn't meant to be there I'm sure...This is the third reason why I have huge question marks about this photograph... (the first being on the thread "Who is this person?")


        And even if they are not teeth.. maybe someone could explain what a lovely white row of something is doing under her chin? It isn't a cut or a scar, nor is it a trick of the light. It isn't a fault with the photographic plate either.

        Especially as it looks seemingly like the mouth has been painted over..



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        • #34
          Hello Tom!

          Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
          It's not "almost" certainly Eddowes, it is Eddowes. The cut is the same, the wounds to the face are the same, the mutilation is the same, the cut throat. I couldn't care less if she was in a spaceship when the pic was taken, it's still Eddowes.

          Yours truly,

          Tom Wescott
          You are probably not the first one to suggest an alien or aliens to be Jack the Ripper!

          But no doubt it, the photo is CE!

          All the best
          Jukka
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          • #35
            Hello Jukka,

            Then do please explain the "tattoo"... I didn't put it on her arm. IT ISN'T a tattoo of "TC", "Conway", or "Kelly." There are huge doubts over this photo. And no, the cuts up the body are NOT out of focus either....how can they be out of focus but the body NOT be? I only ask...

            best wishes

            Phil
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            • #36
              Hi Phil,

              Without wanting to urinate on your parade, believe me I dont, however I feel there is a need to point out your cropped image above misleads in my most humblest of opinions.

              To me the 'tattoo' continues off her forearm and over to the shell, indicating either an illiusion or someone has written on the photo/indented the photo at some stage.

              Respectfully
              Monty
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              • #37
                Hi Monty,

                precisely around that area, from her shoulder to the "tatoo/writing", isn't there a problem ?
                Somehow as if her arm and the coffin were "superposed"...?
                How can we see "so much" of her arm, whereas the coffin is quite deep ?

                Amitiés,
                David

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                • #38
                  Hello David!

                  Well, a thought came to my mind;

                  Could it be a lid on the coffin?!

                  Here's a presentation of my idea!

                  All the best
                  Jukka
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                  • #39
                    Hello Neil,

                    I know you don't want to, and I know your honest intensions... but it STILL isn't the answer is it. There's NO TC, no initials... nothing. Plus the fact that the "wound" isn't there... Plus the fact that a row of "seemingly look alike pearly whites under her chin", plus the figure of a man to her left, plus the writing in the horizontal lines bottom right to above bottom left. Plus the fact the mouth is painted over (and the nostrils,) and the amazing point she SEEMS to have a chemise on..look at the collar under the "cut", plus the possibility that the body looks cut off at the bottom...The shoulder on one arm is totally wrong, size wise, there is enough in that picture to have grave doubts. And you wouldn't see the arm THROUGH the side of a wooden shell either. Enough to raise HUGE questions as to the authenticity of that photo.

                    Anyone seem what the "tattoo" says yet?

                    best wishes

                    Phil
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                    • #40
                      Hi Jukka and Phil,

                      I don't see any lid, but just my eyes... Anyway, your suggestion indicates that you too see something unclear in the "right arm and shell area".

                      Amitiés,
                      David

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                      • #41
                        Hello DVV,

                        Yes, the arm looks "wrong", size wise.(to me, and clearly you as well.)

                        And looking at that arm coming down, it looks "high".. as if it is resting on the side of the "shell"?
                        I only ask..

                        best wishes

                        Phil
                        Last edited by Phil Carter; 02-19-2010, 05:59 PM.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
                          And looking at that arm coming down, it looks "high".. as if it is resting on the side of the "shell"?
                          Phil
                          That's what I would call posing, Phil.

                          Amitiés,
                          David

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                          • #43
                            Hello David,

                            Posing may well be the appropriate word...indeed.

                            Have a look at the left arm... ever seen one so straight on the outer edge?

                            best wishes

                            Phil
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
                              Posing may well be the appropriate word...indeed.

                              Phil
                              Posing or superposing (?)!

                              Amitiés,
                              David
                              Last edited by DVV; 02-19-2010, 06:18 PM. Reason: punctuation lover

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                              • #45
                                David,

                                You got it in in one. I think you may be right.
                                Does all this give us enough to question the photograph as authentic?

                                best wishes

                                Phil
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