The Bloody Piece of Apron Redux

[curious4]

writing

Actually it looks as though Jewes has been altered to Juwes - probably seeing things!

C4

[mariab]

delicacy

Isnīt it jellyfish stings you pee on? Does it also work for snakes? Much easier if you are a man - suppose it depends where it is!

No doubt I'm coming off like a total perv now, but urine contains methane (CH4), that's why it reeks like ammonia, and it helps against inflammation for any poisonous wound, from insects to jelly fish, so I'd definitely try it with snake bites. It also makes the swelling disappear, almost immediately (in less than an hour), at least for insects and jelly fish. But it works best when done ASAP, no waiting.
(As for being a woman – you can use the palm of your hand. Repeat and don't rinse!) ;-)
I can't believe how incredibly gross/punk this thread has become.

[curious4]

the writing

Hello sgh,

Having made out what I think is the graffiti on the lower right hand side(as I previously wrote), this is what I make of the rest:

2 doors from Wentworth Street and (?) the 3 on the right bloods

about 30.0 on the rt hand side(?) doorway about 20.0 and found inside entrance to stairwell (?) from frieze(?) bldg fronting(?) 109 to 11G.

I will keep looking at it and try to make out more if I can. Fascinating! Not sure itīs quite right yet tho! Donīt have little degrees sign so put dot.

Best wishes

C4:

[protohistorian]

C4 and SGH thanks for this. I am the opposite of photoshop savvy so it is good to others doing it! I have tried breaking the message down into lines by section and clarifying it so it could be read but There is too much similarity between background and ink. Being blind does not help. Maybe Jane will have better luck as she is vastly more skilled. Thanks everyone for putting one more issue to rest. Dave

[sgh]

Hello sgh,

Having made out what I think is the graffiti on the lower right hand side(as I previously wrote), this is what I make of the rest:

2 doors from Wentworth Street and (?) the 3 on the right bloods

about 30.0 on the rt hand side(?) doorway about 20.0 and found inside entrance to stairwell (?) from frieze(?) bldg fronting(?) 109 to 11G.

I will keep looking at it and try to make out more if I can. Fascinating! Not sure itīs quite right yet tho! Donīt have little degrees sign so put dot.

Best wishes

C4:

Hi C4,
Many thanks for your input and I would be pleased to hear of any further findings that you manage to decipher. You're right! It is fascinating.

One thing's for sure though - we will never be 100% certain where the bloody apron was found - inside or outside the stairwell due to many conflicting reports at the time.

Best
Steve

[curious4]

writing

Hello Steve and all,

Second try - most probably wrong again but fun!

2 doors from Wentworth Street and no 3 in the report(s) re bloods

about 30 feet/(degrees?) away rt hand side doorway about 20 feet/(degrees) door frame(?)

found inside entrance to stairwell(?) front bldg from 10g to 11g (or 108 to 119?)

Love puzzles!

Best wishes
C4

[sgh]

Hello Steve and all,

Second try - most probably wrong again but fun!

2 doors from Wentworth Street and no 3 in the report(s) re bloods

about 30 feet/(degrees?) away rt hand side doorway about 20 feet/(degrees) door frame(?)

found inside entrance to stairwell(?) front bldg from 10g to 11g (or 108 to 119?)

Love puzzles!

Best wishes
C4

Hi C4,
I can see you're trying your hardest with this word puzzle!
I should have mentioned before that where it says for example 30' 0
it's the surveyor's way of abbreviating 30 feet 0 inches.
So no need to find the 'degrees' key on your keyboard.

Thank you and Best Wishes
Steve

[Stephen Thomas]

What sort of stupid word is 'redux'?

[Chava]

What sort of stupid word is 'redux'?

Latin

[curious4]

writing

Hello Steve,

I have enjoyed trying to puzzle this out, even if I am, I suspect, way off the mark! I suppose you have tried the old Sherlock Holmes magnifying glass? For some reason it worked better than enlarging the image.

I would love to see what the real experts finally make of it - you will post it, wonīt you - please!

All good wishes,

C4

P.S. Yes I did see it was feet in the end (to my shame) - missed the little tick by the 30 first time round!

[Carol]

Hi Curious4!,
I've just read the last week's posts on this thread and so I'm very behind with posting. I'm as surprised as you to find I'm talking to someone from Kent living in Sweden - and my age group as well!
You mentioned in an earlier thread about the chalk that
was used. I've been thinking about this as well and I've remembered that when I was a young girl we never bothered to buy chalk as it was lying about here and there and could even be dug up easily in the garden. Living in the very chalky soil area of Kent had its advantages. We always used 'found' chalk for hopscotch and 'discreet' graffiti! Do you know if the Whitechapel area has chalky soil?
Love
Carol

[curious4]

Chalk

Hello Carol.

Nice to hear from you - we must get in touch - if you want to - and exchange Kentish memories! I will send you my e-mail address.

Yes I remember picking up chalk stones as well. Donīt really know about London, but I have a habit of picking up stones when on holiday (not just in weight lol) and on a visit to London a few years ago picked up a piece of flint and that usually goes with chalk, so maybe.

Best wishes,

C4

[Jane Coram]

Hi,

I'm just trawling through the press reports and came on this in the Te Aroha News 17th November 1888.

It states that Kate was still wearing the upper portion of her apron, so that would seem to suggest that the bottom half of the apron was cut across, rather than it being cut downwards and the left or right half being taken.

Just thought I'd post that while I thought of it.

Hugs

Janie

xxxxx

[mariab]

Hi Jane,
is such a report from a New Zealand paper to be trusted at all, though?

[protohistorian]

Well Maria, it depends on who the London wire affiliate was. There is a paper from Kansas that calls all east enders "animals". They damn sure got the idea from somewhere. Dave