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He sure does.
He's updating his site at the moment, so most of its not available. Fortunately, this little beauty still is:
Thems the Vagaries.....
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You will notice from this photograph that the door to the basement workshop of 29 Hanbury Street was recessed. Also that most illustrations show a canopy over the stairs leading down to it. So from Richardson's point of view sitting on the middle step the basement door was covered over, on his right, below and behind him.
How did he check the lock on the basement door without going into the yard?
Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.
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If he checked the lock he would have seen the body if the body was there. I'm still going with Dr Phillips on this which means I think the body was there. And I don't think he checked the lock. I think at most he pushed open the door a little as he gave a quick look down and right to see if anything was obviously disturbed in the yard. And then he turned and left. That's if he was there at all. Nota bene guys, I'm not saying this is fact. I'm just giving my opinion. I don't find Richardson's fairy story in the least bit credible.Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostYou will notice from this photograph that the door to the basement workshop of 29 Hanbury Street was recessed. Also that most illustrations show a canopy over the stairs leading down to it. So from Richardson's point of view sitting on the middle step the basement door was covered over, on his right, below and behind him.
How did he check the lock on the basement door without going into the yard?
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The Telegraph report (13-Sep) of the inquest says that when Richardson returned with the dessert knife he said "as it was not sharp enough he had borrowed another one at the market".
This appears to contradict what he said earlier about cutting the shoe on the step. Or should it be interpreted to mean that he did some cutting on the step and completed it with another knife later?
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Although it causes issues with TOD etc, I have always felt that Richardson's story is likely to be (at least mostly) true, simply because of its implications.
There has been a gruesome murder. It doesn't seem very logical that Richardson would tell police he had sat on the back steps, pootling about with a knife of all things, unless it was true. If he had never been in the yard that morning, surely it would have been far better to say as much.
But instead he admits he was right next to where the body was found, with a knife.
The bit about the knife not being sharp enough may have been an embellishment to his account, to try to stop the whole "in the yard, with a knife" bit sounding so potentially damning.
I can't think of a good reason he would want to tell the police he had been there, knife and all, if he hadn't, when he must have known how suspicious such an admission was probably going to sound.
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yup thats another explanationOriginally posted by NickB View PostThe Telegraph report (13-Sep) of the inquest says that when Richardson returned with the dessert knife he said "as it was not sharp enough he had borrowed another one at the market".
This appears to contradict what he said earlier about cutting the shoe on the step. Or should it be interpreted to mean that he did some cutting on the step and completed it with another knife later?
"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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bingo AzOriginally posted by Azarna View PostAlthough it causes issues with TOD etc, I have always felt that Richardson's story is likely to be (at least mostly) true, simply because of its implications.
There has been a gruesome murder. It doesn't seem very logical that Richardson would tell police he had sat on the back steps, pootling about with a knife of all things, unless it was true. If he had never been in the yard that morning, surely it would have been far better to say as much.
But instead he admits he was right next to where the body was found, with a knife.
The bit about the knife not being sharp enough may have been an embellishment to his account, to try to stop the whole "in the yard, with a knife" bit sounding so potentially damning.
I can't think of a good reason he would want to tell the police he had been there, knife and all, if he hadn't, when he must have known how suspicious such an admission was probably going to sound.
he wouldnt. and he certainly wouldnt lie and say he was there with a knife no less, if he wasnt."Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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i dont know, bending over and turning his head to look?Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostYou will notice from this photograph that the door to the basement workshop of 29 Hanbury Street was recessed. Also that most illustrations show a canopy over the stairs leading down to it. So from Richardson's point of view sitting on the middle step the basement door was covered over, on his right, below and behind him.
How did he check the lock on the basement door without going into the yard?
"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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why would he? he thought it was neighbors in the yard and took no noticeOriginally posted by NotBlamedForNothing View Post
Considering all the gaps in the fence palings, it's a shame Cadosch didn't do that"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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Cadosch (fictional): Mmm, I wonder if that sound of a scuffle and fall against the fence three feet from where I was when I went out the door, was due to the Whitechapel Murderer, killing another woman? Maybe I should take a look? Nah, it's probably just the neighbors...
LOLAndrew's the man, who is not blamed for nothing
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LOL yourself. why would he think it was the whitechapel murderer? he said he often heard neighbors back there and assumed it was them. even people who heard far more suspicious things during this case ignored them.Originally posted by NotBlamedForNothing View PostCadosch (fictional): Mmm, I wonder if that sound of a scuffle and fall against the fence three feet from where I was when I went out the door, was due to the Whitechapel Murderer, killing another woman? Maybe I should take a look? Nah, it's probably just the neighbors...
LOL
seriously Not your crackpot theories and stupid reasoning is really getting tiresome.
"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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