Richardson's View

[DJA]

Incidentally,the lock was probably 32" to 40" from the top of the door. Even less,if it was a short cellar door.

Now,who wants to apply some Year 7 geometry?

[DJA]

Maybe Jack asked Annie to go down there with him and she said 'No'

Quite possibly.

Could extend this thread for another 44 pages,if you think about.

[Herlock Sholmes]

. I reckon the padlock wasn't even visible from the bottom house step, let alone the middle.
One would have had to go at least as far as the cellar steps to check the padlock, and at the time of day in question, maybe further.
Any normal person would have done that anyway

I realise that Chandler was hardly Sherlock Holmes or Inspector Morse but do you really think that he wouldn’t have noticed this? According to Chandler Richardson didn’t mention fixing his boot and so for the Inspector the checking of the lock was his sole reason for being at number 29. Is it really likely that Chandler wouldn’t have said: “Hang on, you can’t see the lock from the steps!”

Sorry but this point is a non-starter.

[NotBlamedForNothing]

Incidentally,the lock was probably 32" to 40" from the top of the door. Even less,if it was a short cellar door.

Now,who wants to apply some Year 7 geometry?

Coincidently, that's about how far short Louis' whip handle was from reaching Liz's body.

[Chava]

Maybe Jack asked Annie to go down there with him and she said 'No'

My exact thought when I saw this pic was 'why didn't he take her down there?' It would have been completely shielded. And you're right, that would explain the 'no' that Cadoche claims. That having been said, he strangled her first so she was insensible. He could easily have dragged her down the stair and worked on her there, and that would have protected him from anyone looking out of an upstairs window. Thing is, he either lives on the very edge or he doesn't. If he does, then he kills her in the backyard anyway because part of the thrill for him is the possibility of being caught. If he doesn't, he drags her body down those stairs to have his fun. So Annie doesn't get to refuse and stay above ground if he intends to take her down to the cellar.

[NotBlamedForNothing]

Quite possibly.

Could extend this thread for another 44 pages,if you think about.

That's right, and I know what happened next...

After repeated refusals to go down (to the cellar), Jack got frustrated and threw her down on the paving stones.
She screamed three times, but not very loudly.

[NotBlamedForNothing]

I realise that Chandler was hardly Sherlock Holmes or Inspector Morse but do you really think that he wouldn’t have noticed this? According to Chandler Richardson didn’t mention fixing his boot and so for the Inspector the checking of the lock was his sole reason for being at number 29. Is it really likely that Chandler wouldn’t have said: “Hang on, you can’t see the lock from the steps!”

Sorry but this point is a non-starter.

MA0914:

Baxter: Did he tell you what he was there for?
Chandler: Yes; he said he came to look if all was right.

Pretty vague, and it was you that told me about Chandler being caught drunk on duty.

[Abby Normal]

OMG this thread is getting ridiculous. first the size of the steps and now this. you can even tell by the photos that all he had to was lean over/out a little to look down and see the cellar door and lock. as i said Miniscula ad Absurdum.

whats next?

[NotBlamedForNothing]

you can even tell by the photos that all he had to was lean over/out a little to look down and see the cellar door and lock.

Are you referring to Jack or John?

[Fisherman]

My exact thought when I saw this pic was 'why didn't he take her down there?' It would have been completely shielded. And you're right, that would explain the 'no' that Cadoche claims. That having been said, he strangled her first so she was insensible. He could easily have dragged her down the stair and worked on her there, and that would have protected him from anyone looking out of an upstairs window. Thing is, he either lives on the very edge or he doesn't. If he does, then he kills her in the backyard anyway because part of the thrill for him is the possibility of being caught. If he doesn't, he drags her body down those stairs to have his fun. So Annie doesn't get to refuse and stay above ground if he intends to take her down to the cellar.

I think he would likely have found the stairs down to the cellar too short, steep and crammed. He couldnīt stretch Chapman out on her back there, and I think that was a requirement of his.

[Chava]

OMG this thread is getting ridiculous. first the size of the steps and now this. you can even tell by the photos that all he had to was lean over/out a little to look down and see the cellar door and lock. as i said Miniscula ad Absurdum.

whats next?

And yet you're still here...

[Chava]

I think he would likely have found the stairs down to the cellar too short, steep and crammed. He couldnīt stretch Chapman out on her back there, and I think that was a requirement of his.

Good point.

[DJA]

OMG Miniscula ad Absurdum.

You could prolly get a transplant for that too

[NotBlamedForNothing]

I think he would likely have found the stairs down to the cellar too short, steep and crammed. He couldnīt stretch Chapman out on her back there, and I think that was a requirement of his.

I reckon the cellar was used as a brothel, and clients knew where the spare key was kept.

DN0913:

WB: Have you seen any strangers in the passage of the house?
JR: Yes, lots; plenty of them, at all hours.
WB: Men and women?
JR: Yes; and I have turned them out. I have seen them lying down on the landing.
WB: Do they go there for an immoral purpose?
JR: They do. I have caught them.
A Juror: His mother said she never knew anybody to go for an immoral purpose.

Amelia Richardson ran a brothel out of the basement of 29 Hanbury street.
She probably knew JtR by sight.
Annie probably got spooked by him, and refused to down there...

[DJA]

Really earning your "handle" Andy