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  • pr1mate
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    Originally posted by perrymason View Post
    His condition prohibits sexual relations,
    This is incorrect. You can have sex after castration. Castration is removal of the testies. If he had a penectomy then you could say his condition prohibited sexual relations. The exception would be if his castration took place prior to puberty (a eunuch), which I am assuming is not the case here.

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    Originally posted by The Good Michael View Post
    This guy sounds a lot like Sweeney Todd... a creation.

    Cheers,

    Mike
    I think more to the point Mike, it seems we can confirm as many of the stories about him as we can for Mary Jane .....though... it is important that of the 2 books that were published in 1888-1889, the 1888 one self published by a New York author, about the Whitechapel Murders, both had Vasiliev as the Ripper.

    If this man wasnt just some construction of literature, then as a man who killed Unfortunates with a knife and having mutilated some of them, and someone who was last seen in January of 1888 leaving Europe for London, he has to be considered as a prime suspect I would think.

    All the best Mike

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  • The Good Michael
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    This guy sounds a lot like Sweeney Todd... a creation.

    Cheers,

    Mike

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  • lynn cates
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    motive

    Hello. Ah, here we are! This is the chap you mentioned on the other thread.

    Permit me to observe that, perhaps the big question here is NOT whether or not Vasilev is "Jack" or even if he exists; but, rather, does his supposed motivation for killing prostitutes count as viable. I think it does.

    Thanks, as always!

    LC

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  • perrymason
    started a topic The ONLY suspect that had killed "Unfortunates".

    The ONLY suspect that had killed "Unfortunates".

    Hi all,

    Although the term "Unfortunate" was and is not a universal term for "Street Prostitute", in the case of the LVP, the perception seems to be that the 2 terms are synonymous for the most part.

    They ply their trade outdoors, and have no visible means of financial support other than solicitation. The term Unfortunate also refers to the homeless state that they had.

    That being said, I can find only one "Suspect" that had a specific history of killing Street Prostitutes with a knife outdoors in public prior to the killings in the Fall of 1888. One account says that these crimes may have been in 1875, when a man attacked several prostitutes in a particular area of Paris called the "Rochechouart quarter", and that these were not committed by a Nikolas Vasilev. Another report suggests he was a killer of street prostitute, but not relating to the above story.

    After being caught in the act after murdering a few women , (he was alleged to have been searching for a prostitute he fell in love with...who he finds and kills, ...it is said he killed the women to "cleanse their souls",...he supposedly killed 5 prostitutes in Paris with a knife, and was caught in the act on his last),.. and he was incarcerated and found or considered mentally ill. It is said he had previously castrated himself voluntarily to join a cultish group called The Skoptsy, consisting of eunuchs or castrati, sometimes called The Shorn. It is suggested he was released on January 1st, 1888, and was last seen at large and heading towards London in the Winter/Spring of 1888. His decription was "tall, lean, with a brawny form, a pale, waxy complexion (which may have been a side effect of castration) and burning black eyes".....and his age was 40 at his release.

    The single biggest obstacle with this suspect is verifying his history, which despite some attempts, has not been specifically authenticated. But 2 books were published in 1888 calling him the Whitechapel murderer, one self published in New York.

    This suspect if his history is real must by one if not a prime suspect for the killings if it can be proved he was in fact in London at that time. His description does not eliminate him and his past incriminates him... if true. His condition prohibits sexual relations, which none of the Canonicals were said to have engaged in with their killer, and he believed prostitutes were sinners.

    Does anyone know of any literature specific to this suspect that is not present on this site?

    Thanks in advance, and best regards all.
    Last edited by perrymason; 06-27-2009, 09:43 PM.
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