The reputation of Sir William Withey Gull

[DJA]

Sutton wasn't putting on the "shows" that Dr Davies was.

Incidentally,look for Davies in the 1881 census and you will prolly find Mary Ann Nichols as an inpatient.

[Trapperologist]

Sutton was his "admitting" physician twice.

I guess, if he was "attending" him, Roslyn would have pointed the finger at him instead of Dr. Morgan.

[DJA]

Returning to Gull,in 1851 Addison and Gull published a paper on Xanthelasma.

It shows up as an eye problem that Eddowes seems to have had,hence the cuts to her eyes.

There are many clues that link Gull's little mate Sutton to Jack the Ripper.

[DJA]

Sutton was his "admitting" physician twice.

[Trapperologist]

In fact they could have met at the London Hospital. I'm sure Nichols and Eddowes/Conway did as his inpatients.

At least one suspect too. Spiro pointed out in his Black Magic book that Sutton was the attending physician of Roslyn D'Onston.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=p3w...sutton&f=false

[DJA]

Reckon Mary Ann Kelly would have avoided Sutton for the last twenty years of her life.

Not so the other C4. In fact they could have met at the London Hospital. I'm sure Nichols and Eddowes/Conway did as his inpatients.

Bueno.

[Trapperologist]

Thanks DJA, for putting those words in my mouth. I should try that sometime. Then you'll agree with me.

BTW, Doctors have lots of patients so the odds of having a Mary Kelly or variation as a patient are pretty good. How many hundreds or thousands of women patients did he have in a year? The City Missionary (we worked together to find) only "rescued" a limited number of women (about 80 in four years to 89). One he said was Mary Jane Kelly's "friend". That's where I found my link and the clue to his identity after the find rather than working from the chosen "suspect" to the "victim" with a similar name and similar age bracket.

[DJA]

i think rls had in mind avoiding a libel case.

fify

[Trapperologist]

Dr Jekyll and Gull's credentials are MD,DCL,LLD,FRS,etc.
Gull's worth in 1888 was L 344,000 against Jekyll's quarter of a million.

Jekyll's protege has the key to the front door and free access to the old dissecting room,yet usually comes and goes via the laboratory.
Might imply he lives next door.

Relative sizes of J & H are much like G & S.

I think RLS had in mind someone who was leading a double-life, one person not literally two. It was supposedly based on a French teacher friend of his and on a nightmare he had.

However Hannibal Lecter was based on a real doctor from Mexico who was already in jail, so I'm not ruining his reputation. That's one doctor with a double life.

[Trapperologist]

In the West Country, they say the human species consists of men, women and Aclands!

Henry served as the family doctor of EHV growing up.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=x0KFOtMAedwC&pg=PA288&lpg=PA288&dq=captain+verney+acland&source=bl&ots=O_YyK54cZE&sig=ACfU3U1vwRVFH9y18Ro-z2GS3MnpIVF2fw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjDoImE57flAhXhmeAKHdxpBEYQ6AEwCXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=captain%20verney%20acland&f=false

[DJA]

Henry Wentworth Dyke Acland (1815-1900) - BA Oxon(1840) BM MA DM Hon MD Dubl Hon LLD Cantab Edin Hon DCL Durh FRCP(1850) FRS

George Burrows (1801-87) - Bart BA Cantab(1825) MB(1826) MD Hon LLD Hon DCL Oxon FRCP(1832) FRS

William Jenner (1815-98) - GCB(1889) KCB(1844) MD Lond(1844)Hon DCL Oxon Hon LLD Cantab Edin MRCS LSA FRCP(1852) FRS(1864)

George Edward Paget (1809-92) - BA Cantab(1831) MB(1833) MD Hon MD Dubl Hon DCL Oxon Hon LLD Edin FRCP(1839) FRS Hon FRCP.

Excellent Fiver. Well done.
Next time,I'll check the Munks Roll 'cause it has made a monkey of me
At least I gave up smoking

Narrowed it down to four for reasons you'd likely understand.

Gull had Jenner, Paget and Burrows for company regarding Goulstonian Lectures.
(Also Richard Bright ..... for,guess which topic?)

Acland's son,Theodore married Gull's daughter, as we all know.

[Trapperologist]

Well, now I know who(m) my Hospital is named after. And he's got more than a double LLD. Doctor of Laws?

[Al Bundy's Eyes]

Henry Wentworth Dyke Acland (1815-1900) - BA Oxon(1840) BM MA DM Hon MD Dubl Hon LLD Cantab Edin Hon DCL Durh FRCP(1850) FRS

Byrom Bramwell (1847-1931) - MD Edin Hon LLD Edin Birm St And Hon DCL Durh FRCP Edin FRCP(1923) FRS Edin

George Burrows (1801-87) - Bart BA Cantab(1825) MB(1826) MD Hon LLD Hon DCL Oxon FRCP(1832) FRS

William Withey Gull (1816-90) -MD Lond Hon DCL Oxon Hon LLD Cantab Edin FRCP(1848) FRS(1869)

William Jenner (1815-98) - GCB(1889) KCB(1844) MD Lond(1844)Hon DCL Oxon Hon LLD Cantab Edin MRCS LSA FRCP(1852) FRS(1864)

William Osler (1849-1919) - BART MD McGill Oxon Hon MD Christiania Hon DSc Oxon Cantab Dubl Leeds Liverp Hon LLD McGill Toronto Aberd Edin Yale Harvard Johns Hopkins Hon DCL Durh and Trinity Toronto FRCP(1883) FRS

George Edward Paget (1809-92) - BA Cantab(1831) MB(1833) MD Hon MD Dubl Hon DCL Oxon Hon LLD Edin FRCP(1839) FRS Hon FRCPI

Oliver Thomas (1853-1942) - MB CM Glasg(1874) MD Hon LLD Glasg MA Hon DCL Durh Hon DSc Sheff Danzig FRS Edin FRCP(1890) DL JP

Good legwork, what we need to know is how many had these accreditations at the time of Stephenson being published? Given that they all should have been practicing at the time.

[Fiver]

Historically those are the credentials of one man and one man only. At least up to 1889.

Henry Wentworth Dyke Acland (1815-1900) - BA Oxon(1840) BM MA DM Hon MD Dubl Hon LLD Cantab Edin Hon DCL Durh FRCP(1850) FRS

Byrom Bramwell (1847-1931) - MD Edin Hon LLD Edin Birm St And Hon DCL Durh FRCP Edin FRCP(1923) FRS Edin

George Burrows (1801-87) - Bart BA Cantab(1825) MB(1826) MD Hon LLD Hon DCL Oxon FRCP(1832) FRS

William Withey Gull (1816-90) -MD Lond Hon DCL Oxon Hon LLD Cantab Edin FRCP(1848) FRS(1869)

William Jenner (1815-98) - GCB(1889) KCB(1844) MD Lond(1844)Hon DCL Oxon Hon LLD Cantab Edin MRCS LSA FRCP(1852) FRS(1864)

William Osler (1849-1919) - BART MD McGill Oxon Hon MD Christiania Hon DSc Oxon Cantab Dubl Leeds Liverp Hon LLD McGill Toronto Aberd Edin Yale Harvard Johns Hopkins Hon DCL Durh and Trinity Toronto FRCP(1883) FRS

George Edward Paget (1809-92) - BA Cantab(1831) MB(1833) MD Hon MD Dubl Hon DCL Oxon Hon LLD Edin FRCP(1839) FRS Hon FRCPI

Oliver Thomas (1853-1942) - MB CM Glasg(1874) MD Hon LLD Glasg MA Hon DCL Durh Hon DSc Sheff Danzig FRS Edin FRCP(1890) DL JP

[DJA]

Dr Jekyll and Gull's credentials are MD,DCL,LLD,FRS,etc.

Historically those are the credentials of one man and one man only. At least up to 1889.

Gull was a dual LL.D.

I defy anyone to find another match.

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