Patricia Cornwell

[Tom_Wescott]

Get real, folks. Cornwell is a multi-millionaire. Her time is worth lots of money and her non-appearance on the podcast is not indicitive of any fear she might have in confronting Ripper 'experts' (assuming any would be to hand for the broadcast) eager to make a fool of her.

Patricia is after all a Ripprologist.

No she's not. She's a Sickert defamist.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Jeff Leahy]

Ally's pride (as of yet) is not what is preventing Patricia Cornwell from appearing on the podcast. Cornwell has been asked via her publicist at ICM and they have not responded. I do have another avenue to her that I will attempt to utilize in the near future, but I seriously doubt she would ever agree to be on the show. Nor will Keith Skinner appear, for reasons all his own.

While I have no problem with debating the content of the podcasts, ie what our guests and co-hosts actually say, I'm reading now what I believe to be not so subtle gender bashing that I hoped the listeners of our show would be above. Ally, and everyone else, does this for free and it is a service, and I disdain the way she personally, and now her part in the podcast, is being handled by some on this thread.

Could olive branches exist in the Ripper world? I don't know, but a first step towards honest communication would be to dispense of the sexist innuendos.

JM

Hi JM

My train of thought developed from the latest Podcast, which highlights some of the problems of faceless critisism..where as the podcast seems to allow for more cordial communication...

I also pionted out that a Paticia Cornwell podcast would be fascinating if it could ever be arranged..Patricia is after all a Ripprologist.

Pleased to here that you have thought about it and tried to make contact i wish you every luck..

Howevr I am confused by the suggestion that I have made a sexist innuendos

Have I missed something? is there some transatlantic joke about olive branches I have missed??

I may be accused of many things but sexism isn't one of them..I think you have your wires crossed somewhere

[jmenges]

so I'm curious if you would consider debating her new book 'As and when it arrives' on Pod-cast with Patricia Cornwall?

Or does pride get in the way of Ripperology?

Ally's pride (as of yet) is not what is preventing Patricia Cornwell from appearing on the podcast. Cornwell has been asked via her publicist at ICM and they have not responded. I do have another avenue to her that I will attempt to utilize in the near future, but I seriously doubt she would ever agree to be on the show. Nor will Keith Skinner appear, for reasons all his own.

While I have no problem with debating the content of the podcasts, ie what our guests and co-hosts actually say, I'm reading now what I believe to be not so subtle gender bashing that I hoped the listeners of our show would be above. Ally, and everyone else, does this for free and it is a service, and I disdain the way she personally, and now her part in the podcast, is being handled by some on this thread.

Could olive branches exist in the Ripper world? I don't know, but a first step towards honest communication would be to dispense of the sexist innuendos.

JM

[Mike Covell]

Quite serious Tom, when you hear that a building dating from the 1740's has paranormal events, you don't pass up on a chance to investigate.

The building was lovely, really huge ornate doors, hand crafted windows, hand crafted staircases, marble floors, it was like walking back into the Georgian Period!

[Tom_Wescott]

I had to miss the last 15 minutes as I was called to a paranormal Investigation at last minute

I thought you were just having fun when you mentioned this on another thread, but you're being serious, aren't you.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Mike Covell]

Right, near the front of the show, Frogg was a great guest and very well versed in all aspects of the Ripper in relation to media.

I had to miss the last 15 minutes as I was called to a paranormal Investigation at last minute, but the first 45 minutes were great.

The Stan Russo show also brought up some interesting points on Sickert and the Lodger Theory.

[Jeff Leahy]

Hi Mike and Jen

no it was the Frog episode where they talk about debate being more cordial when you can hear people speak rather than hide behind a key board...

Its no secret that I have long sinse crossed Sickert off my suspect list, his profile doesn't fit, I only feel that Druit and Kosminski have any real possibilities as suspects these days..

But I do think Peter Bowers research was interesting and the possibility remains that Walter Sickert may have involved himself in the case..

If that were true it would open up all areas of interesting debate, the lodger, kelly, Stephen Knight etc..

If art experts like Dr Anna Gruetzner Robins beleive sickert may have sent letters, yes i find that interesting..

Not intresting enough to include in a TV program but certainly worthy of closer examination..

So I am, for one, interested in what Keith Skinner might turn up...as far as I know a contact doesn't exist that can false people to lie or produce incorrect evidence..just wouldn't stand up in court..

[Jenni Shelden]

Jeff,

if you could get Patricia Cornwell to agree to debate with me in a podcast about her new book i would love to and i am sure Ally would also love to

I doubt Patricia could face it though

Jenni

ps after all she shirks away from ripperologists who might be 'mean' to her. that said if she's 'changes' i guess im willing to find out how when her new book is out. Does this change involve not fitting people up for murders> Why do you care anyway?? you arent a fan of kay Scarpetta are you!!!??shock!!!! but seriously

[Mike Covell]

Was this the Stan Russo podcast from a few weeks back? Were Sickert was discussed?

It was a good show, and great to see/hear people getting along on air.

[Jeff Leahy]

Hello Ally

i listened to the latest Pod cast with some interest this morning and some of the issues it raised...

I dont believe that you are ever going to get a direct apology from Patricia Cornwell.

I would imagine that she feels much the same as you do..

However I do believe that there has been an attempt at "Olive branches" on her part to the Ripper community, so I'm curious if you would consider debating her new book 'As and when it arrives' on Pod-cast with Patricia Cornwall?

Or does pride get in the way of Ripperology?

Great Internet/radio/IPTV. That is a Pod-cast evreyone would want to hear..

Could olive branches exist in Ripper world?

Just curious while were waiting for Norders scientific evidence to arrive.

Jeff

[Jeff Leahy]

Is there really going to be an alcohol ban on casebook posters?

Are you taking note of this Suzzi???

Lets face it there is little else to do while awaiting Dan Norder's scientific experts who are going to disprove that naughty old Brit, Peter Bower

Jeff

AP you might have something hear, perhaps Ally and Patricia are simply very much alike?

[Ally]

[QUOTE=Cap'n Jack;20403]

My point being, Ally, that if the said author is cosy with you then you accept all that stuff.

No I don't. Name one author who has wholesale insulted every single ripperologist, called them money grubbing whores while doing the same who I have been "cozy "' with? Go ahead.

Turn your dial a bit, and think of several authors who promoted their suspects at the costs of the fact and that was okay by you. You love these guys.

Once again, I am not entirely sure if you lie because you think it's a genuine tactic, or if you just lie because you honestly don't know the difference between lies and the truth. But in either even, yawn. Liars bore me, drunks are mildly fun to point at and laugh.

But Pat, she a women, and Queen Mean she like her throne.

She does. First bit of truth you've stumbled across in oh...decades?

Is it that you probably represent the greatest threat against any chance of reasonable discussion on these boards because you have issues and bonds with cetain male posters on this board who have published material in this regard; and at the same time resent the influence of any women who has published something in this regard, because you haven't, and the one women concerned is a Yankee?

Alcohol impedes clear sentence formation. That was a run-off of mammoth proprotions and minimal sense. I find it interesting that it is constantly men trotting out the "you haven't published anything" argument, especially AP who has consistently said that people who publish on this topic are evil, yet now appears to think that Cornwell has it up on me because she published? And as someone who considers falsifying data and out and out lying as a vald means to further a debate agenda, I'd say you are neck and neck with me as someone who represents the greatest threat to reasonable debate.


Pirate Jack

as fore your last comments, I'm actually quite shocked...is forgiveness really such a bad thing? Is winning the argument really more import than the truth or the Facts?

No forgiveness isn't a bad thing. Care to point me to where exactly Pat has ASKED for it?

[Tom_Wescott]

Ach, I hate it when I fail to get attempts at humor on the net. But that seemed indeed a bit strong.

Yes, strong like a Fine Spanish Brandy.

Besides... I have to admit that I'm a Kraut, not a Yankee.

Indeed, the Germans having the reputation for peace and subtlety that they do.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Jeff Leahy]

sorry just choked on my wine..good night all xx

[JSchmidt]

Ach, I hate it when I fail to get attempts at humor on the net. But that seemed indeed a bit strong.
Besides... I have to admit that I'm a Kraut, not a Yankee.