Sickert Was Ripper

[Gideon Fell]

OK thanks, that was the 'Tiddley Boyar' one of 23rd October 1888 I suppose. I think Ms. Cornwell suggests that it must have been Sickert as he had a stage name of Mr. Nobody. Bit thin I think.

[Jdombrowski89]

Yes, but I don't recall seeing a telegram signed off 'Mr. Nobody' and all the people who sent the hoax letters and telegrams weren't suspects anyway, were they?

Gideon,

There is a telegram such so but the "Mr. Nobody" was crossed out and re-written next ot it was "Jack The Ripper' They were but at the time most of the police officials didn't nessecarily deem them to be all authentic, especially ones from the USA!

Regards,
Justin

[Gideon Fell]

Gideon,

I do believe he's talking about how a Ripper letter was sent (Through Telegram) with the ending signature "Mr Nobody". Also Sickert was known to have given himself knicknames, like Mr. Nobody. Hope this helps.

Regards,
Justin

Yes, but I don't recall seeing a telegram signed off 'Mr. Nobody' and all the people who sent the hoax letters and telegrams weren't suspects anyway, were they?

[Jdombrowski89]

I must be missing something as I didn't know that there was a Ripper suspect nicknamed 'Mr. Nobody.'

Gideon,

I do believe he's talking about how a Ripper letter was sent (Through Telegram) with the ending signature "Mr Nobody". Also Sickert was known to have given himself knicknames, like Mr. Nobody. Hope this helps.

Regards,
Justin

[Gideon Fell]

One only has to see the words "Mr. Nobody" on a Ripper telegram to know that Sickert, who's screen name was "Mr. Nobody" during his acting days, must've written one or more of the Ripper letters....All of that combined can only mean that Sickert, the only Ripper suspect that was nicknamed "Mr. Nobody" with the necessary hair dying skills, was Jack the Ripper. One fails to see how it could be otherwise!

I must be missing something as I didn't know that there was a Ripper suspect nicknamed 'Mr. Nobody.'

[eddie1]

ok first post for me so hello

i to have read the particia cornwell book i found it a good read but hold very little believe she has solved the case as she believes. taken as a story its a good book. they recieved hundreds of different letters all with pictures and stuff but to say this one is sickerts is just guess work.

sickert was a easy target by her after hearing the story about the ripper and the royals and how sickert may have known something about the case

[Jdombrowski89]

Denn,

Aparently you've gotten a hold of the book by Patricia Cornwell I take it? Firsts off that book is downright horrible to say the least. Although Cornwell does say that his DNA matches one of the ripper letters, the reality is that not all of them were written by the ripper, or for the most case, not written by him at all. Beyond that Cornwell doesn't really give any feasible evidence on why Sickert should be considered a strong suspect.

And Cornwell was most likely in France, like Mike said, at the time which immediately rules him out as a suspect. I reccomend reading The Complete Jack The Ripper by Philip Sudgen to better your knowledge.

Regards,
Justin

[Ally]

Okay there are so many assumptions in this argument it's dizzying. Or maybe my eyes are just failing under the strain.

One only has to see the various descriptions of the Ripper to see that he could only have been a hairdresser or actor with access to hair dyes to make him look dark and fair haired.

Or, the witnesses didn't actually see Jack the Ripper. They saw a collection of men who happened to be in the general area at the general time. This does not make ANY of the witness descriptions accurate. Even if he was "all" of the men described by the witnesses (as ludicrous an assumption as the one that claims Sickert wrote "all" of the Ripper letters) there is nothign to say that hair dye was required. People have been wearing wigs and costuming themselves since the dawn of time. It is modern arrogance to claim that someone in the 1888's couldn't have done it without specialized hairdressing skills.

[jdrake]

Any idiot can dye their hair today because, it's quite common and easy though such wasn't the case back then. They couldn't afford it and thereby didn't know how to do it! The fact that Sickert could afford it and knew how to do it is relevant. One has to wonder also how a single killer can be both dark and fair haired without hair dyes. Lastly, only Sickert can be shown to have referred to himself as Mr. Nobody, no other Ripper suspect can say that! Period!

First, being able to afford hair dye is no guarantee that someone knows how to do it and vice-versa. Second, eyewitness testimony is fallible. Third, given the number of letters the police got from people claiming to be the killer, the vast majority (if not all) are probably hoaxes.

[denn034]

Any idiot could have dyed his hair (it's not rocket science), and there's no good reason to think the killer actually did dye his hair.

Similarly, there were a great many letters written and no good reason to think any of them were from the killer, and especially not the Mr. Nobody message.

Considering that there is strong evidence that he was in France for most of the murders of the Macnaghten Five and no evidence that he was anywhere else, it's pretty self-serving to say he could have gone to England. Lots of people can't be ruled out for doing all sorts of things. We have to go where the evidence takes us, not ignore evidence in favor of completely baseless speculation.

Any idiot can dye their hair today because, it's quite common and easy though such wasn't the case back then. They couldn't afford it and thereby didn't know how to do it! The fact that Sickert could afford it and knew how to do it is relevant. One has to wonder also how a single killer can be both dark and fair haired without hair dyes. Lastly, only Sickert can be shown to have referred to himself as Mr. Nobody, no other Ripper suspect can say that! Period!

[denn034]

Response

Explain then why the murders stopped?...Finally if Sickert was the ripper and was so clever to outsmart the police, why toddle off home and paint the alleged scene of the crime??Mike

Killers stop killing all the time. It wouldn't be the first recorded instance of that happening. His paintings occurred after the Ripper murder series and for profit or the same reason he sent Ripper telegrams, postcards, and letters, namely, arrogance and having fun.

[Dan Norder]

Any idiot could have dyed his hair (it's not rocket science), and there's no good reason to think the killer actually did dye his hair.

Similarly, there were a great many letters written and no good reason to think any of them were from the killer, and especially not the Mr. Nobody message.

Considering that there is strong evidence that he was in France for most of the murders of the Macnaghten Five and no evidence that he was anywhere else, it's pretty self-serving to say he could have gone to England. Lots of people can't be ruled out for doing all sorts of things. We have to go where the evidence takes us, not ignore evidence in favor of completely baseless speculation.

[Mike Covell]

Explain then why the murders stopped?
If Sickert was the ripper and was in the East End surely his bloodlust would have continued and he would have killed more??

Patricia Cornwell's book is full of holes and errors, her millions of dollars proved that he may have written one of the letters but there is no evidence he was the ripper.

Finally if Sickert was the ripper and was so clever to outsmart the police, why toddle off home and paint the alleged scene of the crime??

A passanger manifesto would prove conclusively that he was either here or there so is more than pertinant to your theory.

Mike

[denn034]

Response

Must have been a fast ferry between the murder of Stride and Eddowes

If this was the case why has no passenger manifesto been discovered to prove his trips back and forth?

Mike

A ferry would only be needed before and after not in-between (i.e., fascitiousness isn't conducive to civil dialogue). A passenger manifesto, given the fact that an alias could've been used, is irrelevant.

[Mike Covell]

Must have been a fast ferry between the murder of Stride and Eddowes

If this was the case why has no passenger manifesto been discovered to prove his trips back and forth?

Mike