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The Curious Case of History vs. James Maybrick
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This jury member says NOT GUILTY.
I can't actually admit or dismiss the Diary as original, what I suspect is that most likely was written final XIX century but I doubt that James was the author neither he wrote any Ripper letter at all but should be important for any of James' relatives to point him as the famous killer maybe to cover up (if not enough covered) the real identity of the killer/s.
Whoever the killer was, I bet Maybricks family know him.
As I am open minded besides the huge amount of info gathered through the years, I'm not really backing up any theory completely but, taking the hypothesis of Maybricks family involvement, I think Michael Maybrick could be more suitable to be a serial killer than any member of the saga.
Finally, just wanted to make some remarks to your beautifully exposed theory:
1) Tough your many efforts to make it look more credible, the tricky game of using any letter in the graffito to compose or evoque the names of Maybricks family it's the best given example of that Elvis Toast you mentioned.
I'm my opinion, the graffito along with the marks left on Eddowes' face, are the most clear evidence of the killer challenging his fremason colleagues. If the "FM" bloody writen on Mary Jane Kelly's wall is real (I'm still unable to see it no matter the zoom of the photo), is it just possible that FM meant "FreeMasons" instead of "Florence Maybrick" sending another defy to his colleagues?... just guessing.
2) And a remark out of discussion is that Diego is not the spanish translation of James, it's Jaime instead. And how come that I'm capable to say so? because I'm both spaniard and named Jaime and most of my folks use to call me James or Jimmy indeed.
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A and C for me, also. It's fascinating on its own, but much evidence is missing, the newspaper reports sometimes are confusing, and recent suspect "theories" are just that, because they rely on speculation and "might have been" too much.
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I've been fascinated by Jack since I was a young teenager many decades ago. For me it would be a mix of A and C. I love the discussions on Casebook even when I disagree with some of the theories. Unfortunately, at this distance in time I don't believe we will come to a consensus as to the Ripper's identity. They couldn't nab JTR when he was alive and he's proved even more elusive in the 127 years since!
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I have been accessing the Casebook for probably around ten years - I know others have been doing so for twenty or more. For 127 years we have been debating the Whitechapel murders, and yet we seem no nearer solving the case than ever we were and - as each year passes - we presumably get further and further away from the possibility of a solution. Will the Casebook still be running in the year 2100, 2200, 2300, etc., and will the gnerations which follow us debate endlessly without a candidate ever being confirmed as Saucy Jack?
That's a slightly depressing thought, eased only for me personally by the deep conviction that the crimes were solved the moment the Maybrick journal saw the light of a very public day. But it makes you wonder why we do it - pursue a now ancient case which has so little hope of ever being formally solved.
Which leads me to a straw poll - just an anecdotal straw poll (not least because I have no idea how to create those clever polls you see from time to time on some threads).
Why do you read/post to the Casebook, and/or why are you so interested in the case of Jack the Ripper?
A) I genuinely care only about solving the mystery - it fascinates me and I desperately want to know whodunnit; but deep down I do not believe that the mystery can ever be solved conclusively.
B) I genuinely care only about solving the mystery - it fascinates me and I desperately want to know whodunnit; and I genuinely believe that the mystery can be solved conclusively eventually.
C) I'm intrigued by the case and I enjoy the discussion as much as I would gain satisfaction from an answer.
D) I have some other reason. [If so, let us know what that reason is, please.]
It's August Bank Holiday, everyone, and it's wet and miserable. Seems like an appropriate place to start the discussion!
Best wishes,
Iconoclast
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Originally posted by Bridewell View PostIs it a bit like Edinburgh Rock then?
I'm sensing we're slightly off thread here, mind.
However - I watched the recent 'Brighton Rock' film last week. And Jack has got us between a rock and a hard place.
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Originally posted by GUT View PostTime to continue my education...
What is Coldfoot Rock?
(A Sort of boiled lolly is my guess).
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Originally posted by Bridewell View PostAs you may have noticed, Iconoclast, the one sure fire way to start an argument on Casebook is to launch a Maybrick Diary thread. It's good to see that you have a sense of humour and don't take negative comment as a personal attack.
(And a belated welcome to the boards btw!)
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Originally posted by Iconoclast View PostExcellent news Dane.
It rained the entire day today - up to Scotland and back - but I got some Moffatt Toffee out of it and some Coldsfoot Rock. Not a bad return on 500 miles!
What is Coldfoot Rock?
(A Sort of boiled lolly is my guess).
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As you may have noticed, Iconoclast, the one sure fire way to start an argument on Casebook is to launch a Maybrick Diary thread. It's good to see that you have a sense of humour and don't take negative comment as a personal attack.
(And a belated welcome to the boards btw!)
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Originally posted by Dane_F View PostI'm just posting to let everyone know I survived the night though it was touch and go for a few moments.
I wish everyone success wherever they are headed today.
It rained the entire day today - up to Scotland and back - but I got some Moffatt Toffee out of it and some Coldsfoot Rock. Not a bad return on 500 miles!
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Originally posted by caz View PostHear hear, Graham.
But just in case anyone gets the wrong idea, Ripper Diary, The Inside Story didn't actually set out to 'convince' its readers of either of those things.
Love,
Caz
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Originally posted by Graham View PostAs I sit here in front of my lap-top I can see the line of Maybrick books on my shelves, and not one of them has convinced me that Maybrick penned the Diary, let alone was Jack the Ripper. Which is not to say that the 'Diary' is a modern production, as I don't believe it is, but whoever wrote it was not, as far as I am concerned, James Maybrick.
Graham
But just in case anyone gets the wrong idea, Ripper Diary, The Inside Story didn't actually set out to 'convince' its readers of either of those things.
Love,
Caz
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