The Diary—Old Hoax or New?

[John Wheat]

There's no FM? Am I seeing things? Am I going crazy? Am I insane? Did I really see a cloaking Sasquatch or did I imagine the whole thing? Ahhhhhhhhhh!

Yes there is no FM

[Lombro2]

Okay but how do you know I didn't see a cloaking Sasquatch?

I also remember that the guy who fenced the Hitler Diary was a journalist, not the guy who forged it. But correct me if I'm wrong and make me feel insane if you must.

[John Wheat]

Okay but how do you know I didn't see a cloaking Sasquatch?

I also remember that the guy who fenced the Hitler Diary was a journalist, not the guy who forged it. But correct me if I'm wrong and make me feel insane if you must.

I never said you didn't see a cloaking Sasquatch.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Of course there's no FM on the wall, Wheato. Same as Barrett was a journalist - everything has to go one way, doesn't it?

What do you say to those people who can see shapes which look like FM on Kelly's wall ('cos it sure ain't just me)?

No, it sure ain't just you, Ike. We had a poll in January didn't we, the result of which was that out of 25 people voting, only 2 said they could see "FM" on the wall, which number, funnily enough, exactly matches the number of regular posters on this forum, in addition to yourself, who say they think James Maybrick was Jack the Ripper. This poll result didn't exactly support your optimistic claim, which you had made to me, without ever providing any evidence in support, that "plenty of people" can see "FM" on the wall, did it?

[Lombro2]

So journalist = fence in our quick, objective survey, not based on personal opinion.

“Plenty of people” not “plenty of Ripperologists”.

[rjpalmer]

I also remember that the guy who fenced the Hitler Diary was a journalist, not the guy who forged it.

For the Hitler Diaries to have been fenced, they would have to have been stolen. They weren't.

[Lombro2]

I never said you didn't see a cloaking Sasquatch.

Thank you, John. I was beginning to think I lost my mind.

[Lombro2]

Reading these discussions is like listening to a trial with two bad lawyers.

Prosecution: Here are black gloves found at the scene. The defendant can try them on but we already know they don’t fit.

Defence: That’s okay. We can use glove stretchers. We wouldn’t want to embarrass you in front of the jury. We already know our client is guilty.

[Herlock Sholmes]

We know that the diary is a fake just as we know that OJ was guilty.

[Lombro2]

But you’re on the defence team. The dream team.

No Perry Mason moments here.

Just Johnny Cochrane.

[John Wheat]

Reading these discussions is like listening to a trial with two bad lawyers.

Prosecution: Here are black gloves found at the scene. The defendant can try them on but we already know they don’t fit.

Defence: That’s okay. We can use glove stretchers. We wouldn’t want to embarrass you in front of the jury. We already know our client is guilty.

Are you and Ike the bad lawyers?

[rjpalmer]

Do you really remember that? (Korsakoff)

'Iconoclast' has already passed along the following info:

"On Monday August 22 1994, Barrett's GP (with Mike's permission) wrote to Doreen Montgomery with a list of Mike's medical conditions dating back to 1984. There was no mention of a stroke in 1992 or any other year..."

Presumably if Barrett had been diagnosed with Korsakoff's Syndrome between 1984 and August 1994 this would also have been in those medical records? You could always ask Ike for confirmation rather than just random chest thumping.

[Lombro2]

Are you and Ike the bad lawyers?

Yes, we are constantly being given gifts by the unprepared lawyers who say things like, “Fences don’t deal in forgeries”, and we give up every Perry Mason moment.

[rjpalmer]

Yes, we are constantly being given gifts by the unprepared lawyers who say things like, “Fences don’t deal in forgeries”, and we give up every Perry Mason moment.

You might want to invest in a dictionary, Lombro, because you're misusing the word.

A fence is a receiver of stolen goods who then resells them for a profit.

Gerd Heidemann, the journalist for Stern, was not a fence. Yes, he was the middleman between Konrad Kujau (the forger) and the editors at Stern.

But he wasn't passing along stolen merchandise. That's your own invention.

You're trying to forge a link between Heidemann and Barrett, but the two cases are not analogous--unless you're an advocate of Melvin Harris's theory.

[Lombro2]

I must be mad, mentally deficient, and have more than just loss of short-term memory.

Maybe I have a disease that causes "severe memory impairment, particularly problems forming new memories (anterograde amnesia) and recalling past events (retrograde amnesia)."

Korsakoff!!! Oh no!

Could be, eh? Some diagnoses go undiagnosed, don't they.

No? Then I must not have it than because I haven't been diagnosed. But that could be my disease talking. Help me! Help me!