The Diary—Old Hoax or New?

[Scott Nelson]

Who held the pen John, Anne or Mike?

[caz]

Who held the pen John, Anne or Mike?

It was Barrett's parrot, who went by the name of Harriet Barrett.

That should suit John fine because any old parrot can mimic Maybrick.

And it will suit RJ fine too, because it was a female parrot, and they can always be made to dance.

They are also quite partial to a cockatoo.

Love,

Bertie Blunt [Harriet Barrett's ex parrot]
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[John Wheat]

Who held the pen John, Anne or Mike?

I'm not sure.

[StevenOwl]

Who held the pen John, Anne or Mike?

Don't ask him, he doesn't know. He doesn't have a single original thought pertaining to the Diary, he's just here to parrot whatever the likes of RJ and Baron Orsam post. And, of course, deliver his witty one-line insults to anyone who doesn't believe that a Barrett wrote the Diary.

[caz]

I'm not sure.

Well there's a surprise. I didn't expect an admission of uncertainty.

But if you even think there is a ghost of a chance that Mike held the pen, you'd have more credibility voting for the parrot.

Love,

Caz
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[John Wheat]

lets cut through it-forget calling it a new hoax-lets call it for what it is. Barretts hoax.

labeling it new hoax will only open the door for the desperate diary defenders to open the possibility that its a new hoax but not by barret. LOL.
anything to keep the diary nonsense alive.

Years later and a lot of bluster from the diary defenders and this is still the rub of it.

[Scott Nelson]

Call me thick, but I still don't know what a diary defender is.

[Iconoclast]

Call me thick, but I still don't know what a diary defender is.

Come on, Scotty.

Warburton's Farmhouse Loaf.

Deuchars IPA.

Ironing board.

Car door handle.

The clue is rather in the name. It's someone who defends the Maybrick scrapbook against criticism (usually implied to mean 'any and all criticism').

Amazingly enough for the Casebook, I don't even think it's necessarily meant as an insult ...

Ike

[erobitha]

Call me thick, but I still don't know what a diary defender is.

Anyone who does not believe the book was a Barrett / Graham concoction.

[rjpalmer]

Call me thick, but I still don't know what a diary defender is.

Hello, Mr. Thicke, or should that be Scotty Upright?

Diary Defender is a necessary umbrella term that has developed to encompass the surprising and (in some instances) the cringeworthy coalition that has developed between those who fervently believe the diary is the authentic creation of James Maybrick and those who just as fervently believe that isn't but is instead a hoax of indeterminate age and origin. Normally, one would expect these two factions to be bitter enemies, going at it endlessly, but they are united in their disdain for the common opinion: that the diary is an obvious modern fake with Mike and Anne up to their armpits in it.

It's as if you stumbled into a pub in Rivington and lo and behold here was one big, happy group of Man U and Manchester City fans laughing and joking and buying each other rounds and engaging in the most surprising examples of flattery and admiration, until you realized their love was only based on an extreme distaste for Liverpool FC fans.

[Scott Nelson]

Thank you all --Ike, Jay and Roger. Your answers are as clear and consistent as any of Mike Barrett's assertions.

[The Baron]

If one fail at an attempt, he opens his eyes to alternate approaches. If one defends his failure, he loses sight of new approaches.

Those are the Diary Defenders.


The Baron

[Iconoclast]

If one fail at an attempt, he opens his eyes to alternate approaches. If one defends his failure, he loses sight of new approaches.

Those are the Diary Defenders.


The Baron

The Art of War (Sun Tzu)?
The Prince (Niccollo Machiavelli)?
Or Dastardly Drainpipes (Algernon Orsam)?

[rjpalmer]

Speaking strictly for myself, if I was Jack the Ripper descending into my own private hell, and my friend John Piggot nearly cut his own head off with a carving knife, I might have mentioned this in passing in my journal.




Once again, we are left wondering why the diarist doesn't seem to know anything about Maybrick's private life, 1888-1889, outside the events mentioned in Bernard Ryan's The Poisoned Life of Mrs. Maybrick--the one 'Maybrick' book that Barrett admitted to reading.

One would think a hoaxer could have used this grisly event to good effect...had she or he known about it--particularly as there is a decided lull in the text between Mary Kelly's murder and the final dénouement in May. And even Dr. Humphreys makes a curtain call in Piggot's case.

Curious.

[erobitha]

Speaking strictly for myself, if I was Jack the Ripper descending into my own private hell, and my friend John Piggot nearly cut his own head off with a carving knife, I might have mentioned this in passing in my journal.




Once again, we are left wondering why the diarist doesn't seem to know anything about Maybrick's private life, 1888-1889, outside the events mentioned in Bernard Ryan's The Poisoned Life of Mrs. Maybrick--the one 'Maybrick' book that Barrett admitted to reading.

One would think a hoaxer could have used this grisly event to good effect...had she or he known about it--particularly as there is a decided lull in the text between Mary Kelly's murder and the final dénouement in May. And even Dr. Humphreys makes a curtain call in Piggot's case.

Curious.

He is 20th on that list of mourners RJ. Do you have any other evidence they were actually that well acquainted?

Maybe you can ask your question to Anne Graham when you challenge her about her faking the diary.

Let me know how you get on.