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  • Fiver
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post


    Whoa, look who’s back! I was getting worried there for a
    second starting to think maybe you’d been kidnapped by a band of rogue squirrels or something..


    Missed your usual ‘That’s rubbish’.. honestly, my posts felt so empty without it!



    The Baron
    All of your posts have been empty - they don't just ignore, they contradict the evidence.

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  • Geddy2112
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post
    Sit down, breathe, and let the truth do its work. It’ll break through eventually...
    Stop avoiding people's questions it's counter productive and rather rude.

    1) What is the truth that shows up Charles Allen Cross was Jack The Ripper?

    Now instead of the flowery copy and pasted fantasy posts you are coming up with, stand up for convictions and answer some questions. Then we can see where we are at.

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  • The Baron
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    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

    Lechmere is a terrible suspect and in fact Bury may well have been the Ripper.

    That’s not an argument, John. That’s denial dressed up as confidence.


    Sit down, breathe, and let the truth do its work. It’ll break through eventually... just try not to fight it too hard. Reality has a way of winning in the end.



    The Baron

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

    Lechmere is a terrible suspect and in fact Bury may well have been the Ripper.
    If Cross was the ripper John at least we can eliminate Kosminski and the others

    I mean, Bury couldn’t have been the killer really because he has too much going for him..

    Right age, local man, childhood trauma, early criminal behaviour, drunkard, consorted with prostitutes, known to be violent to women, carried a knife, murdered and mutilated a woman and the murders stopped when he left London. Who would be suspicious of all that when you have…family man, no history of violence, no connection to prostitutes, no insanity, no examples of violence, lived a long and fruitful life, continued to provide well for his family and like thousands of others throughout history…found a body on his way to work.
    Last edited by Herlock Sholmes; 02-02-2025, 11:59 AM.

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    We have to allow that Cross was exceptional though Jeff. And not just exception…he appears to have been entirely unique.

    In the entire history of serial murder, with all of those thousands of people who discovered those thousands of poor victims outdoors, not a single, solitary one of them ever turned out to be the killer. Cross is a complete one off. And as we all know Jeff, we are on the very thinnest of thin ice if we rely on an explanation which requires something entirely unique.

    And on top of that…if that wasn’t enough…no one can name a single example…not one…of a serial killer murdering and mutilating a victim just 20 minutes or so before he was due at work.

    So Cross wouldn’t have to have been entirely unique he’d have had to have been doubly unique.

    You’re my ‘stats man’ Jeff…care to put odds on that one? And how much of your ‘hard earned’ would you put on it being the case?

    PS..and if there’s a Mrs Hamm and she had found out that you had put money on it what method would she have used to kill you?
    Last edited by Herlock Sholmes; 02-02-2025, 12:00 PM.

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  • John Wheat
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post


    You’ve been looking at this case for years, huh, John? Same suspects, same names. William Bury. Classic pick. Feels almost too easy, right? Everyone’s on board, nodding along, it all just fits. It’s that neat little package we’ve all been handed. You think you’ve got it. The pieces fall into place like some simple puzzle, and for a second, the whole thing just makes sense.

    It’s 'too' easy, isn’t it? The perfect villain, like some story made just for us.. Comfortable, predictable. You’ve heard it all before, right?

    What if I told you there's a twist you could never see coming? Something that completely shatters everything you think you know?


    You ready? You sure?


    BOOM

    William Bury? Innocent.

    And Lechmere? That 'innocent witness'... Yeah, he’s the Ripper.


    I'll let you process the shock, don’t worry, it’s a lot to unpack. Take your time... I’m sure you’ll come around eventually!



    The Baron
    Lechmere is a terrible suspect and in fact Bury may well have been the Ripper.

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  • The Baron
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    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

    That's absolute rubbish.

    You’ve been looking at this case for years, huh, John? Same suspects, same names. William Bury. Classic pick. Feels almost too easy, right? Everyone’s on board, nodding along, it all just fits. It’s that neat little package we’ve all been handed. You think you’ve got it. The pieces fall into place like some simple puzzle, and for a second, the whole thing just makes sense.

    It’s 'too' easy, isn’t it? The perfect villain, like some story made just for us.. Comfortable, predictable. You’ve heard it all before, right?

    What if I told you there's a twist you could never see coming? Something that completely shatters everything you think you know?


    You ready? You sure?


    BOOM

    William Bury? Innocent.

    And Lechmere? That 'innocent witness'... Yeah, he’s the Ripper.


    I'll let you process the shock, don’t worry, it’s a lot to unpack. Take your time... I’m sure you’ll come around eventually!



    The Baron

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  • JeffHamm
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post
    Lechmere was in the right place at the right time to 'find' Nichols.. and why he didn’t run into Paul earlier..
    The first part yes. The 2nd part was explained by a few different posters (Paul admits that on this night he's running a bit late, and Cross/Lechmere has slowed and stopped, given what he sees. The obvious implications being that the two mean usually do not pass through Buck's Row at the same time, close but no cigar type thing.
    Suddenly he was not in the right place and not at the right time!
    But he's exactly where he would be around that time on most days? So it's not suddenly at all? How did you manage to draw such an invalid conclusion after what so many people have pointed out?
    Incredible! It’s almost like he’s a black hole in the narrative, bending time and space to make sure everything conveniently fits!

    It just happened!

    The Baron
    It's not incredible at all, he's where one would expect him to be. What's incredible is that this seems to be lost upon you because it's not that hard, and it has been clearly laid out, patiently and slow, a few times. Dear oh dear. Perhaps I'm the one being slow and you don't mean what I think you are saying.

    - Jeff

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  • chubbs
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post

    Serial killers don't just commit crimes, they evolve. They adapt, learn from mistakes, and refine their methods over time.

    ...

    Look at Nichols wounds. Why weren't they as brutal as later victims? Why did the Ripper leave the scene without fully displaying his 'work'? Because he didn't have time. He was interrupted. The satisfaction he might have sought was cut short by reality crashing in, by the sudden need to cover his tracks.
    Make yer mind up, Mr Baron. Which was it? Was he evolving or was he interrupted. Or are you just desperately trying to cover all the bases, to make your theory fit all eventualities?

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  • John Wheat
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post


    Whoa, look who’s back! I was getting worried there for a
    second starting to think maybe you’d been kidnapped by a band of rogue squirrels or something..


    Missed your usual ‘That’s rubbish’.. honestly, my posts felt so empty without it!



    The Baron
    See Geddy2112's response to your ridiculous post he's put it better than I could.

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  • Geddy2112
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post
    When we think about murder, especially in the case of Jack the Ripper, we’re not just dealing with the facts. We’re stepping into the psychology of crime itself, the way it unfolds in the shadows.

    Crime isn’t neat, predictable, or logical. It’s chaotic. It’s driven by emotion, impulse, and, often, a deep psychological need for control, the ultimate power over life and death.

    Serial killers don’t just commit crimes, they evolve. They adapt, learn from mistakes, and refine their methods over time.
    Which university did you get your Psychology degree from? Got mine from Durham and you are talking poop here...

    Originally posted by The Baron View Post
    Look at Nichols’ wounds. Why weren’t they as brutal as later victims’? Why did the Ripper leave the scene without fully displaying his 'work'? Because he didn’t have time. He was interrupted. The satisfaction he might have sought was cut short by reality crashing in, by the sudden need to cover his tracks.
    Why did killer Cross hide the wounds to stop anyone noticing them, then stop the first passer-by to erm... notice them?

    Originally posted by The Baron View Post
    Serial killers thrive on control, control over their victims, over their environment, and, most crucially, over the story that will be told about them.

    For the Ripper to have killed and disappeared so effortlessly, he had to know the area intimately. He had to be confident, audacious, certain that he could blend back into the city without suspicion.
    Same as above which University?

    Originally posted by The Baron View Post
    Lechmere, in his casual, almost indifferent demeanor, fits that profile. Not just because he had the opportunity, but because his mindset suggests he saw himself as untouchable. The streets were his stage, and he was directing the play.

    By positioning himself as the one who “found” the body, he wasn’t just giving a statement, he was shaping the narrative.
    And again, which University?

    Originally posted by The Baron View Post
    And for a police force desperate for answers, it was easy to let that version of events slide. Had Paul never spoken up, Lechmere might have faded into the background, an unnoticed figure in a case that remains unsolved.
    Again, however this time was it in Criminology?

    Originally posted by The Baron View Post
    When we stop looking at the case as a list of events and start seeing it as a psychological puzzle, a story of control, timing, and human behavior, the idea that Lechmere was the Ripper doesn’t just make sense...
    No it does not. He acted completely like an innocent witness. The real killer escaped a few minutes before Cross got there, it's that simple.

    Originally posted by The Baron View Post
    It becomes the most logical answer.
    It does not, behave yourself.


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  • Geddy2112
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    Originally posted by scottnapa View Post
    since Paul and Cross walk to work nightly, I would have thought they would have crossed paths many times, yet they do not recognized each other. Curious.
    Paul was running late. Cross was only behind time because of co-finding the body. So on a normal day their paths would not have passed.

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  • The Baron
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    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

    That's absolute rubbish.

    Whoa, look who’s back! I was getting worried there for a
    second starting to think maybe you’d been kidnapped by a band of rogue squirrels or something..


    Missed your usual ‘That’s rubbish’.. honestly, my posts felt so empty without it!



    The Baron

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  • John Wheat
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post
    Lechmere was in the right place at the right time to 'find' Nichols.. and why he didn’t run into Paul earlier..

    Suddenly he was not in the right place and not at the right time!

    Incredible! It’s almost like he’s a black hole in the narrative, bending time and space to make sure everything conveniently fits!

    It just happened!



    The Baron
    That's absolute rubbish.

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  • The Baron
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    Lechmere was in the right place at the right time to 'find' Nichols.. and why he didn’t run into Paul earlier..

    Suddenly he was not in the right place and not at the right time!

    Incredible! It’s almost like he’s a black hole in the narrative, bending time and space to make sure everything conveniently fits!

    It just happened!



    The Baron

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