Evidence of innocence

[FrankO]

Straight through in 1887.

Thanks Dusty. This would also have been my response to Mark's post #6228. The Insurance Plan people definitely saw no barrier in 1887. Looking at several old maps, it seems that Borer's Passage has always been open up to at least 1887.

[drstrange169]

As several people know all too well, I can assure they are being read and commented on elsewhere.

Which has raised a problem, that R.J. has touched on, where can the issues, pro and con, with the Lechmere candidacy be discussed by all parties?

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

>>I think Susan Clapp may have a mole on here, which wouldn't surprise me as there seem to be a few dubious characters on here.<<

Whilst you need to be a member to post, anyone can read what is written here.

I know.

That is why I used the verb 'may'.

[drstrange169]

>>I think Susan Clapp may have a mole on here, which wouldn't surprise me as there seem to be a few dubious characters on here.<<

Whilst you need to be a member to post, anyone can read what is written here.

[Elamarna]

The OS people have definitely seen a barrier...




M.

Mark, I think the question is what is that double line ?

Is it a wall, a fence, is it solid, does it have a gate?

On Spitalfields life there is a photo of the entrance to the clothes market, sadly its from some years later and does not show where that line would be, but it does show a metal railing type fence, with a gate, could this be similar.

It's an interesting question.

Steve

[drstrange169]

Straight through in 1887.

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

Thanks for the map. It doesn't change the facts that Dutfield's Yard is several blocks away and not on a likely route between his mother's house and 22 Doveton.

I agree.

And I had made both those points myself.

But Mark JD hasn't responded to my question about his comment accompanying the map:


Is your comment 'Other daft garbage snipped' directed at me?

[Fiver]

M.

Thanks for the map. It doesn't change the facts that Dutfield's Yard is several blocks away and not on a likely route between his mother's house and 22 Doveton.

[Mark J D]

... if you can tell me where this route was blocked, then I'd be much obliged...

The OS people have definitely seen a barrier...




M.

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

[Other daft garbage snipped.]

M.

Is your comment 'Other daft garbage snipped' directed at me?

[Mark J D]

The arguments I have read, heard, or seen in documentaries to bolster the case that Lechmere would have gone to the murder sites at the right times include: His mother's house was near Berner Street (not very near).

[Other daft garbage snipped.]

M.

[FrankO]

To me, the blue route looks to be the shortest one. Is that correct?

If it's not a "No Through Road", then the answer is "yes".

[FrankO]

I don't believe so, old bean. Take another look.

'No Through Road', as they say...

Bests,

Mark D.

I have taken another look. Not only on the map I posted a link to above (which I believe is of around 1894), but also on the Insurance Plan of 1887 and on none of them I see any signs that tell me that it was "No Through Road", from Hutchison Street left into New Street, then right into Back Gravel Lane, continuing along White Street and through Borer's Passage into Devonshire Square. So, if you can tell me where this route was blocked, then I'd be much obliged.

Cheers,
Frank

[Fiver]

If we assume he entered via Eldon, than going via Hanbury but turning south at Spelman is the shortest possible route, shorter than via old Montague by a few yards.

I doubt he would have noticed a difference of a few yards. Besides length of route, traffic on that route should be considered. Routes to Spitalfields Market, like Hanbury Street, would have seen a lot more traffic. It probably wouldn't have made much difference at 4am, but it is a consideration.

[Fiver]

Other than the pink routes, there was also the blue one.

To me, the blue route looks to be the shortest one. Is that correct?