Evidence of innocence

[FrankO]

Hi Frank.

You probably noticed this on-line picture of Borer's Passage, c. 1911, giving us a look at what is being discussed. Boerer's Passage is also mentioned in a case tried at the Old Bailey in 1863--evidently well-known for many years as an area where one could buy and sell used clothing. I doubt this route could have been unknown to a person who had lived in East London nearly their whole life.

Hi Roger,

Thanks for that photo and Old Bailey reference; I hadn't seen the picture, yet. Nice. Pitty that it's from 1911 and doesn't give the direction of Borer's Passage, but it's always nice to see those old pictures.

Cheers,
Frank

[Fiver]

My only caveat would be that perhaps he wouldn't go down a narrow dark passage at that time in the morning.
Although, I suppose, if he were a brazen psychopath ...

(PS RJ I just pm'ed you.)

He wasn't afraid of walking down Bucks Row or approaching a stranger there, so Charles Lechmere was braver than Robert Paul. Working as a carman would have left him in good physical condition - I wonder how big a man Charles Lechmere was.

[drstrange169]

My only caveat would be that perhaps he wouldn't go down a narrow dark passage at that time in the morning.
Although, I suppose, if he were a brazen psychopath ...

(PS RJ I just pm'ed you.)

[rjpalmer]

Thanks Dusty. This would also have been my response to Mark's post #6228. The Insurance Plan people definitely saw no barrier in 1887. Looking at several old maps, it seems that Borer's Passage has always been open up to at least 1887.

Hi Frank.

You probably noticed this on-line picture of Borer's Passage, c. 1911, giving us a look at what is being discussed. Boerer's Passage is also mentioned in a case tried at the Old Bailey in 1863--evidently well-known for many years as an area where one could buy and sell used clothing. I doubt this route could have been unknown to a person who had lived in East London nearly their whole life.

[FrankO]

Straight through in 1887.

Thanks Dusty. This would also have been my response to Mark's post #6228. The Insurance Plan people definitely saw no barrier in 1887. Looking at several old maps, it seems that Borer's Passage has always been open up to at least 1887.

[drstrange169]

As several people know all too well, I can assure they are being read and commented on elsewhere.

Which has raised a problem, that R.J. has touched on, where can the issues, pro and con, with the Lechmere candidacy be discussed by all parties?

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

>>I think Susan Clapp may have a mole on here, which wouldn't surprise me as there seem to be a few dubious characters on here.<<

Whilst you need to be a member to post, anyone can read what is written here.

I know.

That is why I used the verb 'may'.

[drstrange169]

>>I think Susan Clapp may have a mole on here, which wouldn't surprise me as there seem to be a few dubious characters on here.<<

Whilst you need to be a member to post, anyone can read what is written here.

[Elamarna]

The OS people have definitely seen a barrier...




M.

Mark, I think the question is what is that double line ?

Is it a wall, a fence, is it solid, does it have a gate?

On Spitalfields life there is a photo of the entrance to the clothes market, sadly its from some years later and does not show where that line would be, but it does show a metal railing type fence, with a gate, could this be similar.

It's an interesting question.

Steve

[drstrange169]

Straight through in 1887.

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

Thanks for the map. It doesn't change the facts that Dutfield's Yard is several blocks away and not on a likely route between his mother's house and 22 Doveton.

I agree.

And I had made both those points myself.

But Mark JD hasn't responded to my question about his comment accompanying the map:


Is your comment 'Other daft garbage snipped' directed at me?

[Fiver]

M.

Thanks for the map. It doesn't change the facts that Dutfield's Yard is several blocks away and not on a likely route between his mother's house and 22 Doveton.

[Mark J D]

... if you can tell me where this route was blocked, then I'd be much obliged...

The OS people have definitely seen a barrier...




M.

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

[Other daft garbage snipped.]

M.

Is your comment 'Other daft garbage snipped' directed at me?

[Mark J D]

The arguments I have read, heard, or seen in documentaries to bolster the case that Lechmere would have gone to the murder sites at the right times include: His mother's house was near Berner Street (not very near).

[Other daft garbage snipped.]

M.