Kosminski and Victim DNA Match on Shawl - Part 2

[Monty]

Thanks, Tracy.

Perhaps I should also make it clear that when I spoke to Russell Edwards last year it was on condition that what he told me would remain confidential, which it did.

But after the news broke I did mention to a number of people privately (including Tracy) what my involvement had been, and I also mentioned quite soon after that on part 1 of this thread that I could confirm the genealogical connection of 'M' with Aaron Kozminski, and that Russell Edwards wasn't provided with her contact details until after the date given in the book for the extraction of the material from the shawl.

So there's certainly been no concealment.

I can confim that, and edorse Traceys post.

Chris has been nothing but professional, honest and generous in our dealings with each other.

Monty

[Gene Lewis]

The news is that his shop is closing,as it was on a six month lease..

Closing and double-locked, it seems… as it was last saturday afternoon.

[tji]

If, if, if. You're full of if's. Is it Dr J's mistake which appears in the book?

Well Observer, what would you prefer me be full of?

I think he would be hollering from the rooftop's if not, don't you?

Tj

[Observer]

Hello Observer,

So what is wrong with other people, other than qualified experts, telling him?... Ummm.. if most of the people telling David Moyes had been listened too last year by David Moyes, Man Utd may have had a better season... and they weren't other managers.. but people who know football. To them they SAW the mistakes as clear as daylight. Moyes did not. But they tried to tell him. They weren't experts... but they were right... and had the right to point out his errors too.


regards

Phil

Moyes mistakes were multiple Phil. What we have here is a single very basic very uncharacteristic mistake for an expert in the field to make. Was it he who made the mistake which appears in the book?

[Observer]

I think you'd need to take the best of three. Or maybe the best of five. Is five enough, though?

We'd need a Professor of Statistics to tell us that, wouldn't we? Or maybe three, just to be on the safe side. Or maybe five ...

It's finally beginning to sink in with you people. I like the bit about the statistician's.

[PaulB]

I don't think anyone should be accusing Russell Edwards of being a snake oil salesman.

[Observer]

So if another expert says there has been a mistake made - then what? It is suddenly ok to accept what Chris is saying all along?

Tracy

If, if, if. You're full of if's. Is it Dr J's mistake which appears in the book?

[Jeff Leahy]

Just wait and see how this plays out.

Mr Edwards has said a lot of things...he's a North London property developer,so he knows how to sell.

The news is that his shop is closing,as it was on a six month lease..so anyone thinking of having their photo taken with his dummy for their personalised Xmas cards,had better hurry up !!!!!

We have to take all this with a pinch of salt,as we have more important research work to do.

Patti is bringing out a new book next year...and yes,her's will be definite proof of Sickert being JTR 100% too......

Yep thats the size of it…But then I've never spoken with a commissioning editor that is interested in making a TV series/program that doesn't state this fairly infactically…I believe Trevor Marriot's did.

Book publishers seem a little more forgiving but I think they know what sells like the next man..

Yours Jeff

PS I've not all the time seen eye to eye with Chris on 'casebook' however I don't think anyone should undervalue his considerable contribution to research or his professional integrity. I always read his posts carefully however as he tends to mean exactly what he says unlike some of us who just spirt stuff out.

[Chris]

While question's have to be asked to the connection of the acknowledgement I don't believe it is something he has kept quiet about intentionally, I was aware of it. Chris is acknowledged in numerous works, he just doesn't brag about them.

Thanks, Tracy.

Perhaps I should also make it clear that when I spoke to Russell Edwards last year it was on condition that what he told me would remain confidential, which it did.

But after the news broke I did mention to a number of people privately (including Tracy) what my involvement had been, and I also mentioned quite soon after that on part 1 of this thread that I could confirm the genealogical connection of 'M' with Aaron Kozminski, and that Russell Edwards wasn't provided with her contact details until after the date given in the book for the extraction of the material from the shawl.

So there's certainly been no concealment.

[tji]

Hi all

I think that we can say Chris is trustworthy. I have dealt with him on numerous occasion's and have never had any concern's about sharing research/ideas I am looking into that I am not ready to publish and I imagine a lot of other researcher's are the same. (On the same note he has never shared information with me that is connected with other parties)

While question's have to be asked to the connection of the acknowledgement I don't believe it is something he has kept quiet about intentionally, I was aware of it. Chris is acknowledged in numerous works, he just doesn't brag about them.

Tj

[pinkmoon]

Just wait and see how this plays out.

Mr Edwards has said a lot of things...he's a North London property developer,so he knows how to sell.

The news is that his shop is closing,as it was on a six month lease..so anyone thinking of having their photo taken with his dummy for their personalised Xmas cards,had better hurry up !!!!!

We have to take all this with a pinch of salt,as we have more important research work to do.

Patti is bringing out a new book next year...and yes,her's will be definite proof of Sickert being JTR 100% too......

The six months lease aspect speaks volumes.

[mickreed]

The news is that his shop is closing,as it was on a six month lease..so anyone thinking of having their photo taken with his dummy for their personalised Xmas cards,had better hurry up !!!!!:

Well, he won't have time to run his shop if, as I posted a couple of days back, the reports in the Barnet Post are true. Namely that he and his forensic team, are going into the cold case solving game.

Watch out UCOS.

[anna]

Just wait and see how this plays out.

Mr Edwards has said a lot of things...he's a North London property developer,so he knows how to sell.

The news is that his shop is closing,as it was on a six month lease..so anyone thinking of having their photo taken with his dummy for their personalised Xmas cards,had better hurry up !!!!!

We have to take all this with a pinch of salt,as we have more important research work to do.

Patti is bringing out a new book next year...and yes,her's will be definite proof of Sickert being JTR 100% too......

[pinkmoon]

Possibly the story of Atlantis is the most intriguing for such snippets or 'Kernals'

Personally I'm of little doubt that a race of people were destroyed by some sizmic event some time in the recess of human history. And there are a number of civilisations that the event may have been confused with..

Its finding the missing pieces that can at last prove the oral accounts.

Yours Jeff

Hi Jeff,have you had a look on Mr Edwards website it now says he has conclusively proved who jack the ripper was !!!!!!now that's sizmic.

[Jeff Leahy]

My dad comes from east end his grandparents lived in Whitechapel during murders the story my dad first told me was that Jack was a doctor who drowned in the Thames after the murder of the women who was in the room jack decorated the room with her intestines before jumping into the Thames there are a few basic elements of truth in this story like most stories .I have no doubt that pc Amos at some stage came into possession of this shawl and it has been passed down through the family but to say it's was taken from a murder site is just too far fetched it defies all common sense.

Possibly the story of Atlantis is the most intriguing for such snippets or 'Kernals'

Personally I'm of little doubt that a race of people were destroyed by some sizmic event some time in the recess of human history. And there are a number of civilisations that the event may have been confused with..

Its finding the missing pieces that can at last prove the oral accounts.

Yours Jeff