Why Didn't the Police Have Schwartz and/or Lawende Take a Look at Hutchinson?

[Batman]

When you went into the yard on Saturday morning was the yard door open or shut? - I found it shut. - John Davies at Chapman inquest.

It is interesting that in both these cases, JtR shut the door. Obviously, this was done to give him more time to abscond before the body was found.

Anymore shut doors involved in any of the other Whitechapel murders or later?

Also, someone going to Birmingham was chased up on for matching Hutchinson's Astrakhan man's description? https://casebook.org/press_reports/m.../18881119.html

[Simon Wood]

John Richardson [Chapman inquest testimony] -

"I did not close the back door. It closed itself."

[Sam Flynn]

Yes, slamming the door would automatically lock the door, providing the retaining knob on the inside was in the release position.

Not that it was necessarily slammed, as such. Simply pulling it to would presumably have sufficed.

[Batman]

Is this Astrakhan man or Blotchy?

https://casebook.org/press_reports/morning_advertiser/18881119.html

He was of gentlemanly appearance and manners, and somewhat resembled the description given by the witnesses at the inquest as having been seen in company with Kelly early on the morning that she was murdered. Upon being minutely questioned as to his whereabouts at the time of the murders, the suspect was able to furnish a satisfactory account of himself, and was accordingly liberated.


Cox said shabby. Very shabby. Yet it says the witness gave a description at the inquest. Which isn't Hutchinson's Astrakhan man.

[Sam Flynn]

Is this Astrakhan man or Blotchy?

https://casebook.org/press_reports/morning_advertiser/18881119.html

Cox said shabby. Very shabby. Yet it says the witness gave a description at the inquest. Which isn't Hutchinson's Astrakhan man.

A shabbily-dressed man with a blotchy face sounds even less likely to have been described as being of "gentlemanly appearance and manners". Don't forget that Sarah Lewis was at the inquest, and described seeing a woman, possibly Kelly, in Commercial Street with a "gentleman" she'd seen previously.

[Abby Normal]

A shabbily-dressed man with a blotchy face sounds even less likely to have been described as being of "gentlemanly appearance and manners". Don't forget that Sarah Lewis was at the inquest, and described seeing a woman, possibly Kelly, in Commercial Street with a "gentleman" she'd seen previously.

of course, for this to be Kelly, Hutch must have been lying or mistaken.

[Batman]

Look at this potential candidate for the implication that Hutchinson was truthful.

[Sam Flynn]

Look at this potential candidate for the implication that Hutchinson was truthful.

If someone was going to make up a Jewish suspect, what safer place to pretend to have seen him than one of the most likely places to find a Jewish-looking man?

[Batman]

If someone was going to make up a Jewish suspect, what safer place to pretend to have seen him than one of the most likely places to find a Jewish-looking man?

Out of all the Jewish places Hutchinson could have picked, of which there are many (as per the Booth poverty map we hear time and time about again to make the point that there are no ways to avoid a Jewish connection!), Hutchinson just happened to pick this one?

A coincidence then?

[Sam Flynn]

Out of all the Jewish places Hutchinson could have picked, of which there are many (as per the Booth poverty map we hear time and time about again to make the point that there are no ways to avoid a Jewish connection!), Hutchinson just happened to pick this one?

A coincidence then?

Hutchinson lived on "Petticoat Lane" which, on a Sunday, would have been thronged with Jews, so not much of a coincidence either way.

[Darryl Kenyon]

Yes, slamming the door would automatically lock the door, providing the retaining knob on the inside was in the release position.
If the knob is in the retained position, and the door bolt is withdrawn the door would just bang against the door frame and swing open again.

Yes, the retaining knob on the inside must have been in the release position for the door to be locked.
But i am still at a loss as to why the police did not put their hands through the window to unlock the catch if it was as simple as Abberline says.
Maybe i am missing something?

[Batman]

Hutchinson lived on "Petticoat Lane" which, on a Sunday, would have been thronged with Jews, so not much of a coincidence either way.

I thought Hutchinson stayed in doss houses?

[Sam Flynn]

I thought Hutchinson stayed in doss houses?

His current lodging-house, the Victoria Home, was on Wentworth Street.

[MrBarnett]

Out of all the Jewish places Hutchinson could have picked, of which there are many (as per the Booth poverty map we hear time and time about again to make the point that there are no ways to avoid a Jewish connection!), Hutchinson just happened to pick this one?

A coincidence then?

Is it your understanding that the Booth Poverty Map recorded ethnicity?

[MrBarnett]

His current lodging-house, the Victoria Home, was on Wentworth Street.

And it was apparently a cut above the true 'doss houses'.