Why Didn't the Police Have Schwartz and/or Lawende Take a Look at Hutchinson?

[c.d.]

Given the situation, I think McCarthy can be forgiven for not thinking clearly and logically. I don't see any reason to suspect him of the murder.

c.d.

[DJA]

Bowyer knew the window was broken.

Phillips knew the window was broken.

Apparently it had been broken for weeks.

McCarthy didn't know?

[Batman]

Mary Kelly had not paid rent since the double event.

Suggesting she wasn't paying with money at least.

How did JtR know Barnett had left permanently.

It's a good question but there is still a pervading view that JtR's victims, took him to spots where they would have some time together. So they led him to their deaths.

Why did McCarthy break his own door down.

It's a good question because they were waiting for dogs so in no rush. The thought McCarthy didn't have a spare key is strange.

Was it McCarthy and son at Abberline's retirement party.

Dunno.

[Sam Flynn]

Why did McCarthy break his own door down.

He forced it open with a pick, presumably because he had lost the spare key or couldn't find it in time.

[DJA]

The thing is though, he was sent and then we have reports that when he informed officers he was quite visibly in a state of shock. What I am wondering is if McCarthy knew more than he was letting on. If irregular then it would be a strange coincidence that this day and this day only McCarthy didn't go for the rent.

Mary Kelly had not paid rent since the double event.

How did JtR know Barnett had left permanently.

Why did McCarthy break his own door down.

Was it McCarthy and son at Abberline's retirement party.

[Joshua Rogan]

If the broken pane was stuffed by the coat, surely the Pilot coat, left there by Mrs Harvey (for cleaning?) must be a different coat?

Jon,
The article you posted says that Bowyer "put his hand through the hole and drew aside the curtain and the coat."
Which seems to make it clear that the coat was hanging over the window (with the curtain between it and the glass) rather than stuffed into the broken pane. No?

[Sam Flynn]

If the broken pane was stuffed by the coat, surely the Pilot coat, left there by Mrs Harvey (for cleaning?) must be a different coat?

Yes, I was thinking the same.

[Batman]

The thing is though, he was sent and then we have reports that when he informed officers he was quite visibly in a state of shock. What I am wondering is if McCarthy knew more than he was letting on. If irregular then it would be a strange coincidence that this day and this day only McCarthy didn't go for the rent.

[Abby Normal]

Thomas Bowyer was apparently an ex-military man who had spent time in India.

Has it ever been established if Bowyer was a regular collector or a heavy, used for evictions etc?

The whole thing about McCarthy sending Bowyer to discover MJK has never sat well with me unless sending Bowyer was a regular thing.

Hi batman
Im sure it has. He was ex military, so makes sense.

Ive always thought bowyer might make a valed suspect. He discovered the body, was ex military, would have known marys habits and that she was was recently single. I think he knew about the broken window trick to unlock her door.

Also, debra found an article that has a direct quote from him, where he places himself in millers court in the middle of the night when she was killed.

[Wickerman]

I wonder if the erroneous description of Bowyer being a young man can be attributed to the line where he is described as being a soldier 20 years. Perhaps misread as him being "a soldier 20 years old"?

[Batman]

Thomas Bowyer was apparently an ex-military man who had spent time in India.

Has it ever been established if Bowyer was a regular collector or a heavy, used for evictions etc?

The whole thing about McCarthy sending Bowyer to discover MJK has never sat well with me unless sending Bowyer was a regular thing.

[Wickerman]

If the broken pane was stuffed by the coat, surely the Pilot coat, left there by Mrs Harvey (for cleaning?) must be a different coat?

[Sam Flynn]

Updated score: Walter Dew one; mythbusters, nil.

Correction: Sunday Times one, mythbusters nil.

[rjpalmer]

The Sunday Times, 11 Nov. 1888 provided a cursory plan view of the room.
A note 1 to this sketch reads:
Small window - broken, but covered with an old coat. It was through this window that the body was first seen.

Updated score: Walter Dew one; mythbusters, nil.

[Wickerman]

I've looked through the British Newspaper Archive and cannot find any mention of Bowyer talking about a coat on the Friday or Saturday. The Sunday Times on the 11th provides the first mention...