Is there a chance someone knows for sure the identity of the ripper?

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  • el_pombo
    Cadet
    • Sep 2014
    • 40

    #1

    Is there a chance someone knows for sure the identity of the ripper?

    I've been thinking about this for some time, I believe there is a chance, as slim as it may be, that someone still alive knows the identity of the ripper but never came forward.

    There are several possibilities, the police could have known the identity of the murderer and that information can still exist in the form of classified archives, or, for example, a relative of the murderer could know the truth. It's not impossible (although very unlikely) that a son or daughter of the murderer could still be alive (let's say he was 20 in 1888 and had a child when he was 60 - 1928 - that person would be around 88 years old by now), and a grandson or granddaughter are a good possibility. It could be a well kept family secret and could very well be the only way of finding the truth after so many years.

    Of course, one would still have to prove the allegations of anyone who came forward.

    I wonder if this has ever been taken seriously as a path of investigation in modern days.

    Does anyone see this as a true possibility of solving the murders?
  • Elamarna
    Commissioner
    • Sep 2014
    • 5807

    #2
    Hi

    I think it is possible that some documents still exist somewhere, but they may never be found.
    If a family is out there with knowledge I think it is unlikely they will come forward, the publicity would be too much for most.

    If we get something it will be either by pure luck, or some very obscure research.

    Steve

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    • Observer
      Assistant Commissioner
      • Mar 2008
      • 3177

      #3
      Not a chance. This case will never be solved. Our only slim hope lies with the outstandingly deductive mind of Micheal Richards. Over to you Mike.

      Regards

      Observer
      Last edited by Observer; 01-18-2016, 07:05 AM.

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      • c.d.
        Commissioner
        • Feb 2008
        • 6560

        #4
        Keep in mind that the reward which was quite lucrative given the economic situation of most inhabitants of Whitechapel produced nothing but false leads.

        c.d.

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        • c.d.
          Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 6560

          #5
          "Our only slim hope lies with the outstandingly deductive mind of Micheal Richards."

          Then our situation is truly hopeless.

          c.d.

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          • Harry D
            *
            • May 2014
            • 3360

            #6
            There's plenty on here who claim to know the Ripper's identity.

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            • gnote
              Detective
              • Nov 2014
              • 195

              #7
              Originally posted by Harry D View Post
              There's plenty on here who claim to know the Ripper's identity.
              That's just it. Never mind the countless "sleuths" that believe they've solved the case, there are both police and family who believed they knew identity of the Ripper. Whether or not they have something concrete to base that on is another matter entirely.

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              • SuspectZero
                Detective
                • Nov 2015
                • 273

                #8
                I do believe there is evidence out there. I do believe someone knows the truth, can prove it, and it will eventually come out.

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                • Mayerling
                  Superintendent
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 2762

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Harry D View Post
                  There's plenty on here who claim to know the Ripper's identity.
                  True, metaphorically speaking.

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                  • kensei
                    Sergeant
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 983

                    #10
                    I would imagine there are probably multiple families who "know for sure" they had a relative who was the Ripper. Someone should organize a convention for them once a year so they can debate it.

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                    • Observer
                      Assistant Commissioner
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 3177

                      #11
                      bubble burster

                      Originally posted by c.d. View Post
                      "Our only slim hope lies with the outstandingly deductive mind of Micheal Richards."

                      Then our situation is truly hopeless.

                      c.d.
                      Shameful c.d. Oh ye of little faith. You might well have a point though.

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                      • curious4
                        Chief Inspector
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 1749

                        #12
                        Something which might (possibly) turn up could be a note from an embassy passing on confidential information, and naming JTR. I would vote for the Spanish or French embassy in that case.

                        Best wishes
                        C4

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                        • John G
                          Commissioner
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 4919

                          #13
                          Yes, "Pierre" does, apparently!

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                          • Pierre
                            Inactive
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 4407

                            #14
                            Originally posted by el_pombo View Post
                            I've been thinking about this for some time, I believe there is a chance, as slim as it may be, that someone still alive knows the identity of the ripper but never came forward.

                            There are several possibilities, the police could have known the identity of the murderer and that information can still exist in the form of classified archives, or, for example, a relative of the murderer could know the truth. It's not impossible (although very unlikely) that a son or daughter of the murderer could still be alive (let's say he was 20 in 1888 and had a child when he was 60 - 1928 - that person would be around 88 years old by now), and a grandson or granddaughter are a good possibility. It could be a well kept family secret and could very well be the only way of finding the truth after so many years.

                            Of course, one would still have to prove the allegations of anyone who came forward.

                            I wonder if this has ever been taken seriously as a path of investigation in modern days.

                            Does anyone see this as a true possibility of solving the murders?
                            Hi,

                            If the police knew the ID of the killer that is a terrible problem in many ways. I can only refer to Monro.

                            And as for the other question about relatives, there have already been people claiming to be relatives of the killer, and so we will always have the risk of such people being attention seekers.

                            I only know that history leaves trails and that it also does leave trails that are not meant to be trails. The only way to find the killer is to understand the sources. That is what I believe.

                            Regards, Pierre

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                            • Pierre
                              Inactive
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 4407

                              #15
                              Originally posted by c.d. View Post
                              Keep in mind that the reward which was quite lucrative given the economic situation of most inhabitants of Whitechapel produced nothing but false leads.

                              c.d.
                              That is very interesting. Do you happen know any good literature on this? Or some sources?

                              Regards, Pierre

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