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  • Wickerman
    Commissioner
    • Oct 2008
    • 14897

    #541
    Originally posted by Pierre View Post
    Hi,

    I only have data from the time of the murders.

    Pierre
    So, less than a shoebox full then.
    Regards, Jon S.

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    • DJA
      *
      • May 2015
      • 4700

      #542
      Originally posted by GUT View Post
      But hey another piece if data has been found, we should all be so happy.

      As a BTW what does Pierre mean by "Data"?


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      • Fantomas
        Detective
        • Sep 2015
        • 126

        #543
        I think I have found the identity of Pierre... However, I hope I'm wrong. Having analysed the data in all its entirety, the theory that I have - and I'm about to present this theory nextly in all the very nextliness of my paragraphology - is the theory which is mine and that I have and is as follows. The next thing I will write will be about my theory. The theory that I have and which is mine is that Pierre's thread was very thin at one end, much, much bigger in the middle and thin again at the other end. That is my theory which is mine and which it is and so on.

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        • Harry D
          *
          • May 2014
          • 3360

          #544
          Was it Colonel Mustard?

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          • DJA
            *
            • May 2015
            • 4700

            #545
            Nah!

            Monty Python.

            Seems there is no good end to hold Pierre's theory by.

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            • evertonmarc
              Cadet
              • Jul 2012
              • 37

              #546
              What I love about the case, is that with so many "suspects", you can make a case for several of them, based on little bits of evidence (or theoretical evidence at least).
              But as this was so long ago, coming up with a motive (and backing it up) or even being able to say what sort of person he/she was, is very difficult.

              I for one am interested in finding out (eventually!) what Pierre has come up with.

              After recent refreshing of memory, I'm leaning towards Lechmere (although I'm not sure of his motive I might add) myself these days!
              Last edited by evertonmarc; 10-09-2015, 12:20 AM.

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              • GUT
                Commissioner
                • Jan 2014
                • 7841

                #547
                G U T

                There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                • Fisherman
                  Cadet
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 23676

                  #548
                  Originally posted by evertonmarc View Post
                  What I love about the case, is that with so many "suspects", you can make a case for several of them, based on little bits of evidence (or theoretical evidence at least).
                  But as this was so long ago, coming up with a motive (and backing it up) or even being able to say what sort of person he/she was, is very difficult.

                  I for one am interested in finding out (eventually!) what Pierre has come up with.

                  After recent refreshing of memory, I'm leaning towards Lechmere (although I'm not sure of his motive I might add) myself these days!
                  I´m leaning towards the carman myself, actually...

                  I don´t think he would have had any other motive than a lust to kill. Regardless whether we look at Sutcliffe, Ridgway, Bundy, Gacy, Shawcross or anybody else of these men, they never had any other motive. Of course, it can nowadays be added that some are driven by a will to exceed their predecessors and that they want to shock and so on - it seems serial killing has a touch of exposing the deeds to it that was perhaps not always there, so we may speak of an added element. But a disrespect for other´s right to live combined with a wish to harm and kill, a will to take control over other people´s lives and often get an outlet for a twisted sexuality - normally, the incentives of a typical serial killer do not exceed that.

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                  • Sherlock Houses
                    Sergeant
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 643

                    #549
                    Originally posted by Fisherman View Post
                    I´m leaning towards the carman myself, actually...
                    I'm leaning towards the tower of pizzas.
                    *************************************
                    "A body of men, HOLDING THEMSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO NOBODY, ought not to be trusted by anybody." --Thomas Paine ["Rights of Man"]

                    "Justice is an ideal which transcends the expedience of the State, or the sensitivities of Government officials, or private individuals. IT HAS TO BE PURSUED WHATEVER THE COST IN PEACE OF MIND TO THOSE CONCERNED." --'Justice of the Peace' [July 12th 1975]

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                    • Fisherman
                      Cadet
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 23676

                      #550
                      Originally posted by Sherlock Houses View Post
                      I'm leaning towards the tower of pizzas.
                      You may find them less supporting.

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                      • Pierre
                        Inactive
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 4407

                        #551
                        Originally posted by Fisherman View Post
                        I´m leaning towards the carman myself, actually...

                        I don´t think he would have had any other motive than a lust to kill. Regardless whether we look at Sutcliffe, Ridgway, Bundy, Gacy, Shawcross or anybody else of these men, they never had any other motive. Of course, it can nowadays be added that some are driven by a will to exceed their predecessors and that they want to shock and so on - it seems serial killing has a touch of exposing the deeds to it that was perhaps not always there, so we may speak of an added element. But a disrespect for other´s right to live combined with a wish to harm and kill, a will to take control over other people´s lives and often get an outlet for a twisted sexuality - normally, the incentives of a typical serial killer do not exceed that.
                        "But a disrespect for other´s right to live combined with a wish to harm and kill, a will to take control over other people´s lives..."

                        Yes, but why the disrespect, why the wish to harm and kill and why the will to take control...?

                        The motive can give you an answer to these questions.

                        And why do it with certain methods?

                        The motive can give you an answer to that too.

                        That´s why motives are important.

                        Regards Pierre

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                        • John G
                          Commissioner
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 4919

                          #552
                          I'm leaning towards the straightforward lust murderer hypothesis, particularly as there seems to be clear precedents, as motive for the killings. I certainly do not subscribe to complex arguments about freemasonary or vesica pieces. As to the methods used, that's likely to be entirely incidental as it relates simply to MO.

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                          • Gene Lewis
                            Detective
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 176

                            #553
                            Continue this delirium?

                            I read these pages a month ago and again today ... Nothing new, right? Nothing at all, indeed.
                            Not a single information. Not the beginning of the beginning of a proof. Not a clue. Right? With deep respect, this smells like a huge bunch of ...
                            I'm really surprised that a place like Casebook allows to continue this kind of fun.
                            Regards to all serious members.
                            Gene
                            His man Bowyer
                            (Forgive my accent, I've been to France for a while…)

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                            • evertonmarc
                              Cadet
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 37

                              #554
                              Originally posted by Gene Lewis View Post
                              I read these pages a month ago and again today ... Nothing new, right? Nothing at all, indeed.
                              Not a single information. Not the beginning of the beginning of a proof. Not a clue. Right? With deep respect, this smells like a huge bunch of ...
                              I'm really surprised that a place like Casebook allows to continue this kind of fun.
                              Regards to all serious members.
                              Gene
                              I understand what you mean, however isn't this a forum? You don't have to read this particular thread....! (that isn't supposed to sound snotty or snappy by the way)

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                              • John Wheat
                                Assistant Commissioner
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 3393

                                #555
                                I'm having trouble deciding wether Pierre is serious or wether he is someone with a crackpot theory or both? Having said that there seem to be more and more crackpot theories on this site and often from veteran posters not naming any names.

                                Cheers John

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