Did the Seaside Home ID happen?

[Fleetwood Mac]

Why didn't he kill on say a Tuesday morning or an early Wednesday evening then?
If you look at just the C-5 plus Martha Tabram there is a pattern of Bank Holidays and near weekend killings, possibly after the murderer, if he was in regular, not casual employment, had been paid. With money in his pocket as a lure and after a few drinks at the pub Jack was probably ready to go.

I think it wouldn't have been a good idea to kill on an early Wednesday evening as the cover of darkness helped him out in his adventures.

The idea that he worked during the week and so saved it for the weekend doesn't wash with me. Someone with that level of need wouldn't have had the discipline to contain his urges.

Which, leaves one of two scenarios: he killed when he visited the area, or he didn't have a choice as he lived with someone during the week.

[Jeff Leahy]

Why didn't he kill on say a Tuesday morning or an early Wednesday evening then?
If you look at just the C-5 plus Martha Tabram there is a pattern of Bank Holidays and near weekend killings, possibly after the murderer, if he was in regular, not casual employment, had been paid. With money in his pocket as a lure and after a few drinks at the pub Jack was probably ready to go.

or was it something to do with the Sabbath? Religious further

Yours Jeff

[Jeff Leahy]

Well if that's the case and considering the seriousness of these crimes there would have been a conclusion and kosminski wouldn't have been left to pop of to an asylum for years and sir Melville wouldn't have even mentioned druitt and ostrog.

Ah but thats what i've been arguing MacNaughten didn't know about the ID.

MacNaughten only knew about the original survey lance up noto when he says March 1889

The ID took place far later and shortly before February 1891

Thus MacNaughten correctly favoured Druit given the information he had.

Anderson and Swanson favour Kozminski because they knew about the ID.

The witness was either Schwartz or as Karsten suggests the witness to the attempted murder of Matilda in Brick Lane

Yours Jeff

[Rosella]

Why didn't he kill on say a Tuesday morning or an early Wednesday evening then?
If you look at just the C-5 plus Martha Tabram there is a pattern of Bank Holidays and near weekend killings, possibly after the murderer, if he was in regular, not casual employment, had been paid. With money in his pocket as a lure and after a few drinks at the pub Jack was probably ready to go.

[Fleetwood Mac]

Hi Pink,

Didn't nearly all the murders take place at weekends or during Bank Holidays? I believe it's been suggested that the dates imply the killer was probably in gainful employment and killed on his days off.

That would have been extremely disciplined, unless of course he worked during the night.

I would have thought that the obliteration of Mary Kelly suggests the killer had highly abnormal urges, and such urges may have been too much to save for a weekend.

[pinkmoon]

According to Anderson/Swanson (in combination) the witness did identify Kosminski.

Well if that's the case and considering the seriousness of these crimes there would have been a conclusion and kosminski wouldn't have been left to pop of to an asylum for years and sir Melville wouldn't have even mentioned druitt and ostrog.

[John G]

According to Anderson/Swanson (in combination) the witness did identify Kosminski.

"Unhesitatingly". But, of course, unlike Hutchinson the witness was supposedly Jewish.

[Bridewell]

because of the detailed description he gave there is no doubt he would have been able to identify Kosminski so it would have been case solved and we would never have heard of jack the ripper.

According to Anderson/Swanson (in combination) the witness did identify Kosminski.

[pinkmoon]

Following the same line of thought, could Hutchinson have been Anderson's witness then?

because of the detailed description he gave there is no doubt he would have been able to identify Kosminski so it would have been case solved and we would never have heard of jack the ripper.

[Bridewell]

Could the man described by Hutchinson have been Kozminski?

Following the same line of thought, could Hutchinson have been Anderson's witness then?

[Jeff Leahy]

Hi Jeff,

Yes, I am suggesting the area Brick Lane/ Osborne Street - Old Montague Street/ Wentworth Street (included Black Lion Yard- is the reason Kaminsky (Fido?-). There took place the first attacks on Smith (junction of these streets) and Tabram (George Yard). With the exception of Stride the Ripper never crossed the Whitechapel Road/ High Street. And in the case of Stride, Aaron´s brother Woolf was living near the crime scene.

Today I think if Aaron Kozminski was Jack the Ripper then he worked (and lived -at times-) near George Yard and the junction Osborne Street/ Brick Lane...

Bear in mind; possibly the shop was short-lived (perhaps a few months).

Yours, Karsten.

They were clearly used to moving often

Yours Jeff

[S.Brett]

Are you suggesting around the junction of Old Montagu street and Brick lane, possibly Black Lion Yard?

Has anyone searched for possible ownership or trade names?

Yours Jeff

Hi Jeff,

Yes, I am suggesting the area Brick Lane/ Osborne Street - Old Montague Street/ Wentworth Street (included Black Lion Yard- is the reason Kaminsky (Fido?-). There took place the first attacks on Smith (junction of these streets) and Tabram (George Yard). With the exception of Stride the Ripper never crossed the Whitechapel Road/ High Street. And in the case of Stride, Aaron´s brother Woolf was living near the crime scene.

Today I think if Aaron Kozminski was Jack the Ripper then he worked (and lived -at times-) near George Yard and the junction Osborne Street/ Brick Lane...

Bear in mind; possibly the shop was short-lived (perhaps a few months).

Yours, Karsten.

[Jeff Leahy]

Hello!

A brother of Aaron Kozminski, Woolf Abrahams, run a business with his brother-in-law and cousin Jacob Cohen. It seems, that Kosminski occupied several shops (Leman Street, see Cox - Butchers Row, see CID officer Sagar) in the East End at the time of the murders. CID officer Cox talked about "his place of business, the shop of the man, his little shop, his own house". Maybe, between the several shops there was a "own shop". In my opinion, it is possible that a brother, maybe Woolf, run a shop together with Aaron Kozminski (as later with Cohen and Davis). In this case Aaron might have (mainly) worked and lived in this shop at the time of the murders. At weekends and during Bank Holidays there were no customers and probably no family members when he came back with bloody clothes and "body parts" and other trophies. During the week it is absolutely possible that the brother was already in the shop when Aaron came back from his late walks abroad and nightly prowls (Cox).

Provided, of course, Cox and Sagar were talking about the same man as Anderson, Swanson and Macnaghten (Kosminski).

Are you suggesting around the junction of Old Montagu street and Brick lane, possibly Black Lion Yard?

Has anyone searched for possible ownership or trade names?

Yours Jeff

[S.Brett]

Hello!

A brother of Aaron Kozminski, Woolf Abrahams, run a business with his brother-in-law and cousin Jacob Cohen. It seems, that Kosminski occupied several shops (Leman Street, see Cox - Butchers Row, see CID officer Sagar) in the East End at the time of the murders. CID officer Cox talked about "his place of business, the shop of the man, his little shop, his own house". Maybe, between the several shops there was a "own shop". In my opinion, it is possible that a brother, maybe Woolf, run a shop together with Aaron Kozminski (as later with Cohen and Davis). In this case Aaron might have (mainly) worked and lived in this shop at the time of the murders. At weekends and during Bank Holidays there were no customers and probably no family members when he came back with bloody clothes and "body parts" and other trophies. During the week it is absolutely possible that the brother was already in the shop when Aaron came back from his late walks abroad and nightly prowls (Cox).

Provided, of course, Cox and Sagar were talking about the same man as Anderson, Swanson and Macnaghten (Kosminski).

[John G]

Quite possibly but how easy would it be for kosminski to pop out for a short while when ever he felt the urge to kill he wouldn't have been away from home to long would he.

Yes, Kosminksi may have found it extremely difficult to get away, particularly as the family seemed to have serious concerns and may have been closely watching him.

The Kosminski family also seemed to be upwardly socially mobile. Could it be that Aaron was becoming an embarrassment to the family and they were eager to get him out of the way, I.e institutionalised? Might not that have influenced what they cofided to the police, I.e about the seriousness of their concerns? Could they have exaggerated those concerns?