If a doctor was responsible for the murders.......................

[El White Chap]

Hello John. Thanks.

I am saying that Kate's mutilations were EGREGIOUSLY sloppy. Well, if the medicos are to be believed.

Cheers.
LC

Very true, but just how tidy could one be with such a meagre time window and in the almost total darkness of Mitre Square?

It can be argued as not only the most risky murder of them all but also the worse light conditions to boot.

[Harry D]

Polly and Annie clearly were--by their own statement. But there is absolutely NO evidence that either Liz or Kate were soliciting. None.

Stride was a known casual prostitute, she was hanging around outside a social club at night, and was believed to be soliciting that night by Swanson & the police. She was found murdered in a secluded yard, just the kind of location a prostitute would take a client.

And, please to recall, Kate had just been released from Gaol.

And probably short of a few bob. How would she remedy that, me thinks?

On a battlefield, nearly all have been shot. Is there one gun involved?

Faulty logic (and the same goes for your assassinated presidents).

This won't do. Similar? The medicos pronounced Kate's mutilations as lacking skill. So much so that, when summing up at the Stride inquest, the coroner noted that Kate might be done by an imitator."

As time was of the essence, I think this would be reflected in his work, wouldn't you?

Friday is a week end?

So we can say the killer only struck on either Friday, Saturday, or Sunday? The common link between the murders remains.

I'm afraid these cliches, regurgitated for the nth time, won't do.

Of course not, if some of the greatest Ripperologists out there aren't able to change your mind, then I stand no chance. We're both pissing in the wind, so to speak.

Do you have access to Evans and Skinner's "Ultimate Companion"? Why not give that a go?

My reading list is long enough as it is, but I'll bear that in mind.

[lynn cates]

tidy

Hello EWC. Thanks.

"but just how tidy could one be with such a meagre time window and in the almost total darkness of Mitre Square?"

Don't know. But just how tidy could one be with such a meagre time window and in the almost total darkness of Buck's Row?

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

reasoning

Hello Harry. Thanks.

"Stride was a known casual prostitute, she was hanging around outside a social club at night, and was believed to be soliciting that night by Swanson & the police. She was found murdered in a secluded yard, just the kind of location a prostitute would take a client."

She was--when in SWEDEN.

"And probably short of a few bob. How would she remedy that, me thinks?"

Yes. You THINK.

"Faulty logic (and the same goes for your assassinated presidents)."

You mean REASONING? Please be aware that LOGIC is the STUDY of reasoning.

Faulty? To be sure. I tried to match YOUR reasoning so you could understand where you had gone astray.

"As time was of the essence, I think this would be reflected in his work, wouldn't you?"

Am I to understand that time was NOT of the essence on the open street (Buck's Row) and under the windows of #29 Hanbury? Yet knife skill was shown there.

For your next point, 5 murders, two on the same day, and three different days of the week. What's the pattern in that?

Finally, if we are accomplishing nothing, why don't we break off?

Cheers.
LC

[El White Chap]

Hello EWC. Thanks.

"but just how tidy could one be with such a meagre time window and in the almost total darkness of Mitre Square?"

Don't know. But just how tidy could one be with such a meagre time window and in the almost total darkness of Buck's Row?

Cheers.
LC

Touché. So, are you suggesting that Polly's wounds were much "tidier"?

[lynn cates]

coroner

Hello EWC. Thanks.

I am merely stressing what the medical people/coroner had to say. If they were mistaken, then so am I.

Cheers.
LC

[Abby Normal]

Hello Harry. Thanks.

"Stride was a known casual prostitute, she was hanging around outside a social club at night, and was believed to be soliciting that night by Swanson & the police. She was found murdered in a secluded yard, just the kind of location a prostitute would take a client."

She was--when in SWEDEN.

"And probably short of a few bob. How would she remedy that, me thinks?"

Yes. You THINK.

"Faulty logic (and the same goes for your assassinated presidents)."

You mean REASONING? Please be aware that LOGIC is the STUDY of reasoning.

Faulty? To be sure. I tried to match YOUR reasoning so you could understand where you had gone astray.

"As time was of the essence, I think this would be reflected in his work, wouldn't you?"

Am I to understand that time was NOT of the essence on the open street (Buck's Row) and under the windows of #29 Hanbury? Yet knife skill was shown there.

For your next point, 5 murders, two on the same day, and three different days of the week. What's the pattern in that?

Finally, if we are accomplishing nothing, why don't we break off?

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lc

Martha Tabram killed Aug 7
Polly Nichols Aug 31
Chapman Sep 8
Stride/eddowes. Sep 30
Kelly Nov 9

Do you see a pattern?

[tji]

Hi Abby

Hi Lc

Martha Tabram killed Aug 7
Polly Nichols Aug 31
Chapman Sep 8
Stride/eddowes. Sep 30
Kelly Nov 9

Do you see a pattern?

I see it now - the days they all died had numbers in them

[El White Chap]

Hello EWC. Thanks.

I am merely stressing what the medical people/coroner had to say. If they were mistaken, then so am I.

Cheers.
LC

The murderers frustrating shortcomings with Stride (i.e. no mutilations) could have been a motive for the more aggressive wounds and "sloppiness" with Eddowes. That is of course if you subscribe to Stride being a victim by the same hand as at least Annie and Kate, which you appear not to do.

As I do subscribe to Liz being in that group, I believe our killer was incensed after not being able to carry out all of his desires and also very aware of the possible increasing police presence in the area following the discovery of Liz in the yard. This goes some way in understanding the ferocity and haste in which he dealt with Eddowes, which is why I find your comparison to Polly not as relevant as you and others perhaps do.

[lynn cates]

composite numbers

Hello Abby. Thanks.

No, I must confess I do not. But, if you can tell me what 7, 9, 30 and so on have in common, I'd be pleased to listen. I notice that all these are composite EXCEPT 7, which is prime.

Something like that?

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

cracking the code

Hello Tracy. By Jove, that's it! Well spotted.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

pisteo

Hello EWC. Thanks.

One may "believe" (I think that was your word) whatever one wishes. But I still prefer evidence.

Cheers.
LC

[Fisherman]

Hi Lc

Martha Tabram killed Aug 7
Polly Nichols Aug 31
Chapman Sep 8
Stride/eddowes. Sep 30
Kelly Nov 9

Do you see a pattern?

Would you expect the next murder to appear on the 29:th of November, is that it, Abby? If so, I am not sure that the killer was a number mysticist...

The best,
Fisherman

[tji]

Hi Lynn

Hello Tracy. By Jove, that's it! Well spotted.

I don't like to brag, but I think I cracked it there.

Tracy

[Trevor Marriott]

Hello EWC. Thanks.

I am merely stressing what the medical people/coroner had to say. If they were mistaken, then so am I.

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn
This suggestion of a doctor has misled the public and researchers for god knows how many years and why? Simply because of the picture of a man in a black hat, wearing a black cape and carrying a Gladstone bag. which appears on most ripper books and in documentaries and is suggestive of that person being a doctor. Add to that the now defunked organ removal theory we get doctor, doctor and doctor !

The public have been brainwashed, besides if a doctor wanted organs he could obtain them much more easily than ripping open womens abdomens in the dead of night.