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  • #61
    Hi Richard

    Originally posted by richardnunweek View Post
    6'7 is a good enough reason to feel a persecution complex.
    I too enjoy bullying Bakkies Botha.
    Poor guy.
    But I can't resist.

    Cheers

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    • #62
      yes

      Hello David. Thanks. Not too bad for an old man.

      "I'm indeed pretty confident that MJK isn't a random victim."

      Heartily concur. Of course, I'd say the same for Kate.

      Cheers.
      LC

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      • #63
        known

        Hello John. Thanks.

        "possibly the killer knew Kelly."

        I believe that.

        Cheers.
        LC

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        • #64
          Why is it a given that MJK must have 'known' her murderer?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Harry D View Post
            Why is it a given that MJK must have 'known' her murderer?
            It's not but it remains a possibility.

            Cheers John

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Fisherman View Post

              That is not the only "because" by any means, Jon.
              I understand that Christer, and I also appreciate that you will have done your homework. I really don't feel comfortable in buying into the Crossmere hypothesis just yet.
              Regards, Jon S.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by DVV View Post

                Some will argue that JtR killed indoors because it became too risky in the streets. But that makes no sense. If so, why is she the only victim killed indoors ?
                Er,....because the streets were crawling with cops, tec's & vigilante's since early October?


                Fleming should have been a person of interest, yes Dave, based on what we know, that much is true.
                How do we know he wasn't?
                Regards, Jon S.

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                • #68
                  likely

                  Hello Harry. Thanks.

                  It is LIKELY since Miller's Court is a bit out of the way. Moreover, either she let him in or he knew how to get in. Either way . . .

                  Cheers.
                  LC

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
                    I understand that Christer, and I also appreciate that you will have done your homework. I really don't feel comfortable in buying into the Crossmere hypothesis just yet.
                    Thatīs completely fine, Jon. Itīs a good thing we are not all of us running down the same paths!

                    The best,
                    Fisherman

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Harry D View Post
                      Why is it a given that MJK must have 'known' her murderer?
                      Itīs not, Harry. The reason for thinking Kellyīs killer was an aquaintance of hers lies to a great extent in the facial wounds - when the identity of a murder victim has been obliterated like this, it has often been the result of a wish on behalf of the killer to rub the victim out of his world. Thatīs how the reasoning goes, and since it has empirical support it is not any bad reasoning at all.

                      However, in Kellyīs case it was not only the face that got obliterated - the killer seems to have put great effort into carving away as much as he could, so it could also be reasoned that the face was just collateral damage; why would he leave it untouched when he cut into all of the rest?

                      There are also examples of killers that have caused great facial damage to victims they have not known at all, sometimes to add shock value. It takes all kinds, as you will appreciate ...!

                      All the best,
                      Fisherman

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by DVV View Post
                        Some will argue that JtR killed indoors because it became too risky in the streets. But that makes no sense. If so, why is she the only victim killed indoors ?
                        All the best
                        David
                        Perhaps because she was the one and only victim that the killer approached that surprised him by actually plying her trade indoors. I donīt think we can postulate that Kellyīs killer sought her out in Millerīs Court. He may equally have met her on the streets - we know she walked them in search of clients - and approached her thinking she would be the exact same kind of outdoors victim as the other ones. And then he does what he always does - he follows the lead of his chosen victim and ends up indoors.

                        The best,
                        Fisherman

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                          Hello Harry. Thanks.

                          It is LIKELY since Miller's Court is a bit out of the way. Moreover, either she let him in or he knew how to get in. Either way . . .

                          Cheers.
                          LC
                          Or she met him in the street - in which case itīs a whole different ballgame. Letīs not forget that option.

                          The best,
                          Fisherman

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                          • #73
                            G'day Fisherman

                            Or she met him in the street - in which case itīs a whole different ballgame. Letīs not forget that option.
                            If she met him on the street I hazard a guess that she let him in.
                            G U T

                            There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                            • #74
                              G'day Lynn

                              Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                              Hello Harry. Thanks.

                              It is LIKELY since Miller's Court is a bit out of the way. Moreover, either she let him in or he knew how to get in. Either way . . .

                              Cheers.
                              LC
                              But if it's the later the question is then, how did he know?
                              G U T

                              There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by GUT View Post
                                G'day Fisherman



                                If she met him on the street I hazard a guess that she let him in.
                                In which case we need not venture any guess that the two knew each other - she would have let any punter in the exact same way, and it indeed seems we have an example of this in Blotchy.

                                The best,
                                Fisherman

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