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Hello Harry. Fleming, in my humble opinion, is a fine candidate for "MJK." But let's not extrapolate to "JTR."
Cheers.
LC
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Hello Christer. Thanks.
First, let me apologise for misspelling the possessive pronoun. Shocking.
Now, I was taken aback that you have toned down MO to an approximate one. Well done.
"How many times in history do you think a punter has said "Undress for me!" by the way?"
Whilst he remained fully clothed?
By the way, you did not add one where "MJK" HANDED him the knife. Slipping?
Cheers.
LC
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Who done it
Person or persons unknown. Certainly unproven.
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Hi Harry,
I think the answer to your original question is that a lot of people each have a suspect, and yet there is no direct evidence against anyone.
I think that mirrors the views of the two police forces at the time.
That is the infuriating thing about the case, and also its allurment.
The greatest unsolved criminal mystery.
Best wishes.
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Hi Harry,Druitt is my favourite for the crown of jack the ripper because of the following reasons 1, he was named by a very high ranking and respected police officer 2,his own family suspected him.3,with his father been a doctor he might well have had some form of anatomical knowledge.4,he was single so would be able to turn up at home with some human organs .5,he suffers some major turmoil with his mother been placed in an aslylum.6,he was respectable looking and wasn't short of a few quid this might have put his victims at ease.7,he died at the right time 8, sir Melville chose him over another highly regarded suspect 9,he didn't live locally,10,the story that was doing the rounds shortly after the last murder that the killer had been fished out of the Thames fits him nicely.
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So far we've had Crossmere, Joseph Fleming, and James Kelly, as the outstanding candidates? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyone want to throw another hat into the ring?
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lynn cates:
Hello Christer. Thanks.
Approximate MO now? Well, well.
Would you expect the exact same thing? No two killings are completely alike, as you know.
And the evidence for going out?
Itīs the exact same as the evidence for staying in - itīs non-existant. Unless you ask me for evidence that prostitutes go out for business...?
Really? I should think various were passing by. Of course, if he KNEW there schedules . . .
Various passing by? Outside the walls, you mean? That is another matter, is it not?
Dressed in full regalia.
Says who? Itīs you that postulate that he would hide the knife under his garments. I am equally happy with a perspective where he has the knife in his apron, placed on the table. After that, he could be nude as you like. My own feeling is that he did not want to undress, since that would be somewhat precarious if somebody came along and he had to flee.
Nude killers have a harder time hiding out.
How many times in history do you think a punter has said "Undress for me!", by the way?
"And what is that bulge under your clothes AND located to one side?"
And if he carried it on his back? No? Or if it was on the table, in his apron? No? Or if it ... No? It could only be the way you jester about? Yes?
"Just a suggestion--that fits with the evidence and the other canonicals."
Other canonicals? Fit? Glad you don't sell shoes. (heh-heh)
Fine. then tell me why it does not fit with the other canonicals. And then you can start selling shoes.
But not to me.
All the best,
Fisherman
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full regalia
Hello Christer. Thanks.
"No, it's just based on the possibility that it was the same killer and the same approximate MO in all cases."
Approximate MO now? Well, well.
"So Kelly goes out 3.32 sharp, she finds a punter (or, to be more exact, the "punter" finds her). . ."
And the evidence for going out?
". . . they go to Kelly's room, and the killer suddenly realizes that this time there is no risk of people passing by, meaning that he do not have to rush things for once."
Really? I should think various were passing by. Of course, if he KNEW there schedules . . .
"So as she undresses, he sits back for a minute . . ."
Dressed in full regalia.
". . . savouring the moment, and when she creeps into the bed, asking him "What are you waiting for, Duckie?"
"And what is that bulge under your clothes AND located to one side?"
". . . he doesn't wait any longer."
No. He removes his coat, whips out his weapon, er, knife, and advances. She conveniently forgets to scream.
"Just a suggestion--that fits with the evidence and the other canonicals."
Other canonicals? Fit? Glad you don't sell shoes. (heh-heh)
Cheers.
LC
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Originally posted by lynn cates View PostHello (again) Christer.
"Why would we exclude the possibility that she led the way to her room, the murder site"
Whilst the punter stood there in full garb, knife hidden under garments, as she undressed.
Cheers.
LC
The best,
Fisherman
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Originally posted by lynn cates View PostHello Christer. Thanks.
But is that solid--or built on the shaky Hutch foundation?
Cheers.
LC
No, itīs just based on the possibility that it was the same killer and the same approximate MO in all cases. So Kelly goes out 3.32 sharp, she finds a punter (or, to be more exact, the "punter" finds her), they go to Kellys room, and the killer suddenly realizes that this time there is no risk of people passing by, meaning that he do not have to rush things for once.
So as she undresses, he sits back for a minute, savouring the moment, and when she creeps into the bed, asking him "What are you waiting for, Duckie?", he doesnīt wait any longer.
Just a suggestion - that fits with the evidence and the other canonicals.
The best,
Fisherman
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meanwhile . . .
Hello (again) Christer.
"Why would we exclude the possibility that she led the way to her room, the murder site"
Whilst the punter stood there in full garb, knife hidden under garments, as she undressed.
Cheers.
LC
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How firm a foundation?
Hello Christer. Thanks.
But is that solid--or built on the shaky Hutch foundation?
Cheers.
LC
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Hello Richard. Thanks.
That works fine for me. Of course, Mrs. Maxwell is always doubted.
Cheers.
LC
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