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[lynn cates]

two

Hello GUT. Thanks.

Two by the same hand? I can buy that.

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

Wonderful to see you back, David!

Hi Ben,

Thanks. I'm also glad to see you're still posting.

See you !

[DVV]

I thought it through, David. I sought the net for comparisons and found numerous tall and thin people who were quite healthy. You will remember Peter Crouch, I trust?
All the best,
Fisherman

Hi Fish,

I remember Crouch, although I dislike football.
I remember him because he makes a 6'7 Fleming definitely unlikely.
I've already explained why, but I can repeat if you want.

All the best Fish !

[DVV]

"So who's the one you call "JtR"?"
No one.
LC

Hi Lynn.

Then I can agree : "Fleming is a non-starter as Mr Nobody"

Cheers

[DVV]

Two by the same hand? I can buy that.
LC

You sure refer to the double event.
Now you're a ripperologist, my friend.

[Harry D]

Hello Harry. If Barnett had wished to scare "MJK," and by killing prostitutes, then why bother with organ removal? Why not kill, mutilate (for shock value), then run?

Cheers.
LC

Because sheer mutilation didn't have the desired effect on MJK after the first two victims: Tabram & Nichols? Perhaps Barnett decided to take it up a notch and leave MJK under no illusion that Whitechapel was dealing with one sick puppy?

[DVV]

Poor Barnett is innocent as a newborn lamb.
Hence the song "Mary had a little lamb", whereas La Fontaine's "The Wolf and the Lamb" respectively refers to Fleming and Barnett.

Case closed, if you ask me.

[lynn cates]

double event

Hello David. Thanks.

Hmm, never thought of Polly and Annie as a "Double Event"--but I like that.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

fear

Hello Harry. Thanks.

1. I'm not sure why one would be more terrified with one set of mutilations compared to another. Dead is dead.

2. If Barnett were the killer, why did he not lie when asked about "MJK's" fear? Why not answer, "No. At least, she never expressed any fears to me"?

Cheers.
LC

[Harry D]

From what I've read of Barnett, I'm surprised he doesn't rank higher on the suspects list. He had the motive, he had the means, he had the opportunity. He fits several witness descriptions. He was a local guy who knew the area. The 'From Hell' letter (which I believe is genuine) was arguably penned by an Irish hand, Barnett was Irish. He had the key to MJK's room or possessed the knowledge on how to lock it. He fits the FBI profile, etc.

Far more reason to suspect him before the likes of Tumblety, Druitt et al.

[DVV]

Hmm, never thought of Polly and Annie as a "Double Event"--but I like that.
LC

You mean Piggott's victims ?

[DVV]

From what I've read of Barnett, I'm surprised he doesn't rank higher on the suspects list. He had the motive, he had the means, he had the opportunity. He fits several witness descriptions. He was a local guy who knew the area. The 'From Hell' letter (which I believe is genuine) was arguably penned by an Irish hand, Barnett was Irish. He had the key to MJK's room or possessed the knowledge on how to lock it. He fits the FBI profile, etc.

Far more reason to suspect him before the likes of Tumblety, Druitt et al.

Hi Harry

I'm afraid he had no motive. But he had an alibi instead.
By the way, there is no motive at all for such killings. You merely need to be a serial killer with specific fantasies.
For all we know, he was a "normal" guy, and led a "normal" life.
A bit like Cross/Lechmere.

Two little lambs.

Cheers

[lynn cates]

alibi

Hello Harry.

"He had the motive, he had the means, he had the opportunity."

He also had the alibi.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

bopped

Hello David. Thanks.

You mean the lady he bopped?

Cheers.
LC

[pinkmoon]

Hello Jason. Thanks.

My point was that, if one is merely trying to scare "MJK," why all the extra mutilation and organ removal? It would merely retard progress and increase chances of capture.

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn I know what you meant and I agree that the extra effort to mutilate went far and beyond simple murder I think the removal of the organs is a factor that is very important to this case .Like I said before who would be able to take human organs home with them and not raise any suspicion in the household.