Edward spooner

[DRoy]

UkranianPhil,

It is true it may be impossible to prove right or wrong. However, to be blunt, is that really what you want your theory to be based on? What evidence or proof is there to back any of what you've said?

Lots of people lived in the area and had just as much opportunity to kill Stride. You're basing your opinion on him being broke? Wasn't most of the population in and around the area? Add Lynn's comments and you've got your work cut out for you.

Of course its possible he killed Stride. But, please don't rely on the "can't prove it wasn't him" rule because it's a weak argument. What's worse is using other ridiculous suspects as a way to push your suspect. I mean that in a helpful way UkranianPhil, honestly.

Besides supposition, provide anything in the sort of evidence and i'll bite. Until then, you may be on your own with this one.

All the best,
DRoy

[ukranianphil]

True smoking joe, but its fun trying and i hope that one day
We will get a little bit closer to the killer.

[Smoking Joe]

Un fortunately you will never be able to prove your theory,and nobody will be able to disprove it.

[lynn cates]

recognised

Hello Phil. Thanks.

You may have missed my point under 2. Why would BSM (Spooner?) worry about being recognised? What had he done, up to that point?

Cheers.
LC

[ukranianphil]

Hi Lynn.
1. If Liz was not soliciting that night, why did she go into dutfields yard with a man?
Even is she was not, perhaps that is what happened to her sixpence?
2. Spooner lived at 26 fairclough street, and i am sure he would have bumped into her at one point. (doing some research at the moment)
A.no. Spooner just saw an opportunity, i believe it was a one off crime. He moved away a couple of years later.
B. Most people in Whitechapel hated the Jews, so yes it is possible spooner was racist towards them.
B. Like most muggers, people don't know how much their victims have.

anyway lynn it is a work in progress, and if people can put forward that the ripper was a royal, a painter, or a doctor then i can put forward my prime suspect Edward spooner as Liz strides killer.
If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong.

[lynn cates]

recognised

Hello Phil. Thanks for posting this.

"he panicked and saw Liz walk up and down Berner street, he saw his chance, tried to rob her, realized she could recognize him, he slit her throat. He noticed Schwarz, and shouted "Lipski!" Schwartz said the attacker who shouted, did so in English."

Hopefully, these are not intended chronologically?

At any rate:

1. If he expected to make a haul from Liz, surely, he was disappointed?

2. Realised she could recognise him as --what?

A. A notorious prostitute accoster?

B. A racist who shouts slurs?

C. A thief who stole, perhaps, tuppence?

Cheers.
LC

[ukranianphil]

I am not putting him forward as Jack the Ripper, but i think he killed Elizabeth stride.
He was standing outside the bee hive pub with a young woman when he heard two jews shouting "murder and police!"
He said he had been to another beer shop before. Did police check this information out?

I Think he was out drinking, and spent his money, he panicked and saw Liz walk up and down berner street, he saw his chance, tried to rob her, realized she could recognize him, he slit her throat. He noticed schwarz's, and shouted "lipski!" Schwartz said the attacker who shouted, did so in English. He then
calmly walked round the corner to fairclough street, met his young woman outside the pub and when he herd Diemshitz and the other member he went back with them to the yard. He went over and touched her chin, he saw a chance to clear himself and he even helped Lamb close the doors. When police arrived, he got involved pretty quick, but he backed off quickly from the scene. He moved soon after the murder, and had a son in 1890. I hope someone can help me?
To prove he was liz strides murderer, i need to know 3 things.
1. His description.
2. was he married at the time of the murder.
3. what beershop was he in before he went to the bee hive.