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  • #16
    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

    So what? There is nothing to say Lechmere in particular was the Ripper.
    I was answering your post.

    The old chestnut about a possible missing ‘Cross’ file is trotted out time and time again.
    Last edited by MrBarnett; 02-17-2022, 12:19 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post

      I was answering your post.

      The old chestnut about a possible missing ‘Cross’ file is trotted out time and time again.
      It might be true though a file on Lechmere may have been lost. Exactly what is there to say Lechmere was the Ripper? A name that could be easily traced back to him? Finding a body? Not a lot really.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
        ... Swanson’s 18/10/88 report ... only mentions Lechmere in passing as one of two carmen who found the body on their way to work.
        Lechmere attaching himself to Paul really paid off big-time, didn't it...?

        M.
        (Image of Charles Allen Lechmere is by artist Ashton Guilbeaux. Used by permission. Original art-work for sale.)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mark J D View Post

          Lechmere attaching himself to Paul really paid off big-time, didn't it...?

          M.
          Or by 18/10 he could have been checked out and well , checked out

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mark J D View Post


            Where would dear old John Richardson have likely been found in the wee hours of his day off...? I think we should be told...

            M.
            And you have evidence that Lech was were on his days off ?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

              It might be true though a file on Lechmere may have been lost. Exactly what is there to say Lechmere was the Ripper? A name that could be easily traced back to him? Finding a body? Not a lot really.
              I think you've summed up the thousands of post on lech very well in those couple of lines

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Darryl Kenyon View Post
                And you have evidence that Lech was were on his days off ?
                -- Instead of wasting time trolling me, shouldn't you be looking for information about whether John Richardson had a parent and/or step-parent and/or child living within a couple of minutes' walking distance of Berner Street? Aren't you curious to know? Even if you aren't, surely you're dying to make use of whatever comes of the simple statistical likelihood that someone named as a witness will have had relatives nearer Dutfield's Yard than Lechmere's were?

                M.
                Last edited by Mark J D; 02-17-2022, 02:59 PM.
                (Image of Charles Allen Lechmere is by artist Ashton Guilbeaux. Used by permission. Original art-work for sale.)

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mark J D View Post

                  -- Instead of wasting time trolling me, shouldn't you be looking for information about whether John Richardson had a parent and/or step-parent and/or child living within a couple of minutes' walking distance of Berner Street? Aren't you even curious to know?

                  M.
                  And did he have a connection to Pinchin Street…?

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                  • #24
                    and does his anchor points of home, work and family encompass the rippers killing field?
                    "Is all that we see or seem
                    but a dream within a dream?"

                    -Edgar Allan Poe


                    "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                    quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                    -Frederick G. Abberline

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Mark J D View Post

                      Lechmere attaching himself to Paul really paid off big-time, didn't it...?

                      M.
                      So we have to ask how Lechmere, on the spur of the moment, came to believe that he and the man approaching (Paul) could go for a Constable and that he could then have separated himself from Paul so that he could misinform Mizen without Paul hearing? This makes absolutely no sense. We keep hearing of, on the one hand the cool, calculating Lechmere yet on the other hand he’s an idiot. There’s absolutely no way that he could have ‘planned’ to lie his way past Mizen and yet this claim is made.
                      Regards

                      Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                      “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

                        It might be true though a file on Lechmere may have been lost. Exactly what is there to say Lechmere was the Ripper? A name that could be easily traced back to him? Finding a body? Not a lot really.
                        It might be true that a file was created, not mentioned in the index or by Swanson and then lost. Anything’s possible.

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                        • #27
                          Personally I think that this geographical stuff is entirely irrelevant and a red herring. He was a local, familiar with the area like thousands of others. So what? How many others tangentially involved in this case, on further research, would be found to have an Auntie Mary that lived a few streets away from Berner Street and a childhood best mate who live near Mitre Square or that he used to work not far from Dorset Street? Most of these are undiscoverable facts of course but I’d say that it would be a safe bet that these kinds of ‘connections’ could be made.
                          Regards

                          Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                          “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                          • #28
                            So, even though I think don’t think that Richardson was the ripper, I’d say that he has more going for him as a suspect that Lechmere. So why are some so enthusiastic about him? Im not saying that he shouldn’t have been looked at but I look at everything that’s proposed against him and it doesn’t raise an eyebrow. It’s the confidence in him as a suspect that I can’t understand.
                            Regards

                            Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                            “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
                              Personally I think that this geographical stuff is entirely irrelevant and a red herring. He was a local, familiar with the area like thousands of others. So what? How many others tangentially involved in this case, on further research, would be found to have an Auntie Mary that lived a few streets away from Berner Street and a childhood best mate who live near Mitre Square or that he used to work not far from Dorset Street? Most of these are undiscoverable facts of course but I’d say that it would be a safe bet that these kinds of ‘connections’ could be made.
                              The ball’s in your court, Mike.

                              What were Richardson’s connections to St Georges?

                              With Lech we’re not talking about an ‘Aunty Mary’ connection, we’re talking about where his mother had lived for around 30 years, where he himself had grown up and where his eldest daughter still lived.

                              Within weeks of him moving away from SGE and using a new route to work through Whitechapel and Spitalfields bodies started piling up in Whitechapel and Spitalfields.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
                                So, even though I think don’t think that Richardson was the ripper, I’d say that he has more going for him as a suspect that Lechmere. So why are some so enthusiastic about him? Im not saying that he shouldn’t have been looked at but I look at everything that’s proposed against him and it doesn’t raise an eyebrow. It’s the confidence in him as a suspect that I can’t understand.
                                I'm of the same opinion as regards Lechmere Herlock.

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