I often wonder if we are missing a trick with the Martha Tabram murder. If, as many do, we believe she was a victim of JTR then is it possible that the soldier who was with Tabram that night is our killer? At 5:30am in George Yard buildings Dr Kileen examined the body and determined she had been dead for 'about 3 hours' so roughly 2:30am.
At approximately 2am PC Barrett spoke with a soldier loitering near the North entrance of George Yard. When approached he said he was 'waiting for his mate who had gone off with a girl'. Now we have no way of knowing if this girl/woman was Tabram but it is very interesting that this happened so close to the presumed TOD(not a perfect estimation but the mitigating factors present in other cases are not as pronounced- I.e temperature, extent of mutiliation so might be close enough). We have some evidence Tabram was in the company of soldiers prior to this encounter albeit a few hours had passed. Any thoughts?
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Originally posted by Enigma View Post
Here, kitty, kitty.
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Originally posted by Indian Harry View PostSo in short my new favorite is an unnamed suspect using the organs for cats' meats.
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The need to tell lies was just a necessary part of getting through the day for many people in the East End. Rarely did any of the prostitutes give their true names, many people were wanted for rent arrears, or petty theft, or generally being in debt to someone for something.
I find some members link suspicious activity or telling lies to them being Jack the Ripper, the East End was the nearest thing to a den of iniquity, finding anyone who has never told a lie is likely impossible.
Personally, I find John Richardson's testimony quite acceptable, the points that some call suspicious have been easily explained.
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Originally I liked George Hutchinson as my prime suspect. Recently I've gravitated towards John Richardson. His testimony at the inquest just seems so suspicious to me. The one thing that strikes these days is how often cats' meats comes into the picture. The lady that lived next door to 29 Hanbury ran a cats' meat business and from what I understand the Nicholls murder took place close to where they slaughter horses. I believe one of the end markets for horse meat is in cats' meats. The prevailing theory is that the organs were taken for trophies or as some kind of weird kink. I wonder though if they were simply taken to be used in cats' meats. Did the Ripper go to Bucks Row to steal some horse meat but in the end opted for a more disturbing alternative? Did he go to Hanbury Street to steal from the cats' meat lady but when that fell through resorted to a human alternative? So in short my new favorite is an unnamed suspect using the organs for cats' meats.
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I'll admit I'm an amateur ripperologist. Although I have more doubts these days, for me Kosminski was and remains the most viable suspect. The Swanson marginalia cannot be entirely discounted. I also believe JtR either lived alone, which isn't likely, so had access to private dwellings of a sort... and... knew Whitechapel, not just well - but extremely well. Some I know feel Kosminski was too young at the time; but I tend to wonder if he looked older than his years due to his deteriorating mental and physical health - and especially if he abused alcohol - which is likely.Last edited by Filby; 03-16-2023, 02:34 AM.
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Originally posted by c.d. View Post
Could be but what about the facial mutilations to Eddowes? I really don't see anything personal in Kelly's murder. More time equals more mutilations.
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Originally posted by Bridewell View Post
The great unknown.
The vicious facial mutilations to Kelly make me think that was personal. For her murder I'm inclined towards Joseph Barnett - but I'd be hesitant to suggest him as being responsible for the others.
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And the vicious facial mutilations make me think it wasn't Kelly...
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Originally posted by Abby Normal View Postwith alot of new posters i think its time again to take a toll. whos your favored suspect? ill start. hutch and blotchy. then Chapman, Bury, Koz, Kelly, and Lech. whats yours?
The vicious facial mutilations to Kelly make me think that was personal. For her murder I'm inclined towards Joseph Barnett - but I'd be hesitant to suggest him as being responsible for the others.
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Originally posted by Dickere View Post
Unless 'Jack' was a double act, or more.
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Originally posted by mpriestnall View PostIs it not safe to assume that the police would have looked at Bury and discounted him as JTR?
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Originally posted by Fernglas View PostMost definitely not! Just because you have Scheuklappen (blinkers) on when it comes to a crucial area of existing(!) evidence, the Ripper had provenly some medical skill, what he did at Mitre Square is something no amateur could pull off in near darkness, is no reason to stop writing about it. Besides, your phenomeninal politeness (Achtung, Irony is on) does nothing to endear me to follow your "advice".
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