Reginald Saunderson, November 1894

[Abby Normal]

Ed Kemper was 15 when he murdered his first victims. Granted, most young murderers seem to target family members or classmates.

yup which is what he did-his granparents. and only started his serial killing spree (with true MO/sig) years later. somewhat more sophisticated with ruse being involved and victimology more defined-young women. that being said he ended his killing with his mother (and friend) and turned himself in. which just goes to show you how diverse and odd a serial killer can be in there victimology, time frame, MO/sig, and reason for stopping!!

[rjpalmer]

I have a copy of the CRIM 1 file on this case if anyone wants anything posting or looking up.

Thanks, Debs. Did you get any sense that Swanson or anyone else had tried to establish Saunderson's whereabouts prior to December 1888? (The month he was sent to Eastcote).

[Harry D]

thanks hs. a tad young

Ed Kemper was 15 when he murdered his first victims. Granted, most young murderers seem to target family members or classmates.

[Abby Normal]

He would have been 15, Abby. He was 21 in 1894. He'd been in an asylum facility since Dec. 88 (one of the Langdon Downs establishments)

thanks hs. a tad young

[Herlock Sholmes]

Jack the Nipper?

[Debra A]

how old was he in 88? i couldnt read the articles.

He would have been 15, Abby. He was 21 in 1894. He'd been in an asylum facility since Dec. 88 (one of the Langdon Downs establishments)

[Abby Normal]

Thanks Howard and Debs.

If he was only a few years older

how old was he in 88? i couldnt read the articles.

[Debra A]

Thanks Howard and Debs.

If he was only a few years older

Interesting case for quite a few reasons though.

[Debra A]

Rajah, Debs.....the Old Bailey report is brief

That's right, How. He was found unfit to plead similar to Cutbush, so there was no OB trial. The CRIM file is 147 pages of police court testimony, including Bond's statement. His statement covers his observations on the way Augusta's throat was cut. I collected copies of files of some of the cases Bond was involved with where I could a few years ago.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Rajah, Debs.....the Old Bailey report is brief

Thanks Howard and Debs.

If he was only a few years older

[Herlock Sholmes]

The one and the same. Donald Swanson wouldn't make Superintendent until 1896. Note also that Dr. Bond was called in to look at the victim's injuries.

Thanks Roger, for some reason I was under the impression that Swanson had been promoted earlier than that. You live and learn.

[Howard Brown]

Rajah, Debs.....the Old Bailey report is brief

[Debra A]

I have a copy of the CRIM 1 file on this case if anyone wants anything posting or looking up.

[rjpalmer]

The one and the same. Donald Swanson wouldn't make Superintendent until 1896. Note also that Dr. Bond was called in to look at the victim's injuries.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Interesting stuff Roger. Thanks for posting this. Is the Chief Inspector Swanson any relation?